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Tuesday, August 26, 2008

Slacker Environmentalist #2: Buying a NiCd battery pack to extend equipment life

Aug 26 2008 11:41AM | Permalink | Email this | Comments (14) |
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Owing to the fact that we no longer have horses (thank God), we no longer have a need for a hay shed. In the spirit of recycling and good neighborlineness, I offered the shed to our neighbors, including taking the small shed apart, which required the use of my 10+ year-old Makita drill. Sadly, the battery pack and its back-up were kaput and would no longer hold a charge. What to do? The Makita itself is in dandy condition and looks good for another ten years. Buying a new drill with a new lithium ion battery pack would be fun (because buying electronic stuff is always fun) but it would cost a couple of hundred bucks, and result in the Makita going to the dump.

Or, I could buy a replacement NiCd battery pack for $37 from Amazon. Makita apparently no longer supports the battery pack, but this replacement battery, made by TopCell, claims to use Panasonic or Sanyo cells and has received some good reviews. So that’s what I bought.

NiCd is nasty toxic stuff, but I don’t like spending money unnecessarily, nor do I like throwing stuff away that still has years of service in it. I see from the EDN blog Critical Links, A new batteries directive with a new focus -- and new consequences, that in Europe the battery directive is exempting NiCd batteries used in portable equipment from the ban on cadmium use in electronics, at least through 2010.

My purchase of a NiCd replacement battery pack comes under the heading of Slacker Environmentalist: My initial reaction of wanting to buy a less-toxic battery chemistry got outvoted by my competing desire to extend the life of my equipment.

Here’s a zip code finder for battery recycling locations, apparently for anywhere in the US: http://earth911.org .


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Reader Comments


at 8/26/2008 1:16:14 PM, Meredith Poor said:
I have Makita drills, and find that the NiMH works the same as NiCad (most Makita pre-lithium battery packs are interchangable). You need a seperate charger for the NiMH. It might cost another $30 for the charger, but you're also getting better performance. Makita has been selling NiMH since at least 2001.

at 8/26/2008 2:12:32 PM, RobS said:
Don't stock up on too many CCFL bulbs either. The environmentalists will soon be back to outlaw them after they discover (shock!!!) that they contain dangerous mercury. Chasing environmental goodness is like hunting fairies. Good for you for restoring the Makita!

at 8/26/2008 2:13:55 PM, Bitbanger said:
I had the same problem with a Ryobi drill & saw kit - dead Nicads. I took the battery pack apart and jolted each cell with an automotive battery charger (12 V, 10 A rating) for about 300 ms each. It works again, and it's a lot less expensive.

at 8/26/2008 2:20:56 PM, CBurke said:
You can recycle any rechargeable battery pack of any chemistry, (including NiCd, NiMH, Li-Ion, Li-Zinc, and small sealed lead (Pb)) through the non-profit Rechargeable Battery Recycling Corporation program (www.call2recycle.org). There are more than 50,000 retail partner locations nationwide (including major tool retailers), and it's as easy as dropping your old battery off in the drop box at the store.

at 8/26/2008 2:26:01 PM, CBurke said:
I, too, had to retire an almost 20+ year old Makita drill and batteries, but because the NiCd replacement packs were still good (I had replaced them several times over the years), I donated the entire drill to the local Habitat for Humanity Re-Store (www.habitat.org/env/restores). The new Li-Ion battery tools have more power an better runtime, so if you use your drill a lot, it's worth the money for a new one.

at 8/26/2008 2:32:10 PM, CBurke said:
In the RBRC battery chemistry list above, "Li-Zinc" should have been "Ni-Zinc."

at 8/26/2008 3:11:47 PM, Chris PE said:
NiCd should be probably outlawed , now that we know that cadmium is strictly related to cause kidney cancer.It was a good decision to buy a replacement, although I would look for NiMH which is safer. I understand a statement about drill.Made in Japan, powerful and dependable.I have a 12 V makita which I converted to NiMH (Duracell 2850 mAh) and it works just great. There is an easy way to build an inexpensive automatic charger,because original Makita chargers were not a best thing....I have a 20 year old Milwaukee electric screwdrivers that may be restiored.As far as replacing ANY NiCds with NiCd it will never happen in my house.I wish that 20 years ago we would all know about cadmium what we know now.The greatest thing is that you are a wonderful lady - men's dream! Woman , who likes to buy electronic stuff!!!! WOW!!! ~~~~~~

at 8/26/2008 4:06:02 PM, Steve said:
I always buy corded power tools. This not only save money on batteries, but it also eliminates the frustrations with discharged battery when you need it. It is also more powerful.

at 8/26/2008 4:55:32 PM, Stiggle said:
Take apart the battery pack and replace the cells with NiMH cells 1:1. The NiCd charger should still be able to charge the NiMH cells as well as the NiCd cells without change. The drill batteries ususaly have sub-C cells but I can usually fit AA NiMH cells as replacements with similar if not higher capacity compared to the NiCds they replace... Interesting to note that the Solar path lighting still has NiCd cells inside. Made in China naturally. Yes ROHS is also self serving and will exempt substances for special reasons if someone with connections crys. First they allow reduced Mercury florescent lamps thinking this will reduce the amount of Mercury in that ends up in the land fills. But then we see that these reduced Mercury lamps don't operate very long before flickering and needing to be replaced. Half the Mercury replaced twice are three times as often. "Penny wise, Pound foolish" environmentalists!

at 8/28/2008 8:31:39 AM, Nic Houslip said:
Disposing of Nicad [and I suspect NiMH] cells isn't a real problem. Many years ago I worked for a NiCad Mfr and we sent all the scrap cells to a steel works, where they put them in the blast furnace and were glad of them as the constituents made a nice balancing charge [no pun intended] to enable the metalurgists to get the melt composition exactly where they needed it.

at 9/2/2008 2:32:03 PM, Steve H said:
Stiggle said: "The drill batteries ususaly have sub-C cells but I can usually fit AA NiMH cells as replacements with similar if not higher capacity compared to the NiCds they replace" Capacity is one thing - but impedance is another. No way a AA has as low impedance as a C cell. In a high power drain drill you won't get anywhere near the stalling torque with a higher impedance battery pack. This trick will work on low drain applications, but not a big drill. Course - maybe it's just me being too tough on my drill, but I stall it all the time! I can never have enough torque! ;-) My 2 cents worth.

at 9/2/2008 8:29:45 PM, Twister said:
When my B&D drill's battery died, I picked up my Dad's 50+ year old B&D "Holgun" and kept on working.

at 9/5/2008 11:25:25 AM, Stiggle said:
The sub-C and C cell Nicads do not have very low impedance. I can get much more current out of the NiMH AA cells than the typical C-cell used in drill battery packs. I can also get three AA cells in the volume of one C-cell. The Sub-C cells are shorter than C-cells or AA-cells. The Sub-C cells are more common so I have to rearrange the pack to fit it back together using 1:1 AA:Sub-C substitution.

at 9/5/2008 8:22:01 PM, servoguy said:
The best way to recycle NiCad batteries is the way suggested by Bitbanger. Hit each cell with about 10 amps for a very short time, and the cell usually will come back to life. I have done this for years with good results. Some battery packs have an internal fuse, so you may have to disassemble the battery pack.

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