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Tuesday, March 1, 2005

Merger Mania: Cingular and AT&T get worse

Mar 1 2005 11:14AM | Permalink |Comments (23) |


I've had my share of troubles with the cellular carriers over the years. I've dealt with all of the major North American carriers except Nextel, and all have completely failed in the customer-service experience. (I recall one incident where I bought my wife a new Cingular phone for her birthday, but couldn't get it activated because her birthday was on a Sunday and Cingular had decided to close its call centers on Sundays to save money.)

So it shouldn't have surprised me when my recent attempt to seek info on new GSM phones from Cingular and AT&T Wireless left me completely frustrated. The companies are obviously mired in combining businesses, but it's going to cost them customers if they can't get out the straight scoop on important things such as 3G UMTS (Universal Mobile Telecommunications System) service—the follow-on to 2.5G EDGE (Enhanced Data for Global Evolution).

I was shopping for two phones to replace the two Sony Ericsson GSM phones that my wife and son use on a shared Cingular account. And yes, despite my negative experience of a few years ago we still use Cingular because of the shared rollover minutes and because the company's GSM service makes European usage possible (See, "Simple elegance: SIM cards traverse the globe.") The contract for those phones ends in less than three months, so my wife and son are eligible for the customer-retention rebates that come with new equipment and contracts. I could have just let them choose one of the latest, relatively full-featured phones that come next to free, but I viewed this as an opportunity to test new gear and services. I had my sights set on a Windows Smartphone for my son and a UMTS-compatible handset for my wife.

I stopped by the nearest Cingular store a week or so ago to inquire about UMTS and the Windows Smartphones. No one in the store had ever heard of UMTS, and they knew that they could get the Motorola MPx220 phone, based on Windows Mobile 2003, only via special order. The Web sites are no help either. The companies are busy combining the two sites. The former section on the AT&T Wireless site that discussed the UMTS offering leads to nowhere, and the Cingular site doesn't even mention UMTS and its promise of 384-kbps data rates that can deliver compelling video, at least according to MobiTV (see, "Mobile video: Participants follow multiple paths.").

I had seen one of the Motorola phones at Best Buy back in November when that retailer was the exclusive outlet for the phone's launch. But to take advantage of the Cingular rebate, I need to buy replacement phones from Cingular. Moreover, the Motorola MPx220 got horrible early reviews and only mediocre reviews more recently. I wanted to see the Audiovox SMT5600 Windows Smartphone that's been a hot topic in the blogosphere. That phone first appeared as an AT&T Wireless offering back in October.

This past weekend, I ventured a little further from home to a former AT&T Wireless store that's now operating under the Cingular banner. There I found a store manager that was extremely knowledgeable and passionate about the business, but who was clearly frustrated by the merger. The store had Cingular-branded phones on one wall and AT&T-branded phones on the opposite wall. New customers, he explained, can choose from either wall. Existing customers that want to take advantage of the equipment rebate have to choose from the wall of their current service provider—even though the two are presumably one company now. Well, the Motorola MPx220 is a Cingular phone and the Audiovox SMT5600 is an AT&T Wireless phone.

Note that these are GSM phones based on SIM cards. You can buy any GSM phone, find a competent shop that for $15 can "unlock" the phone from the "branded" service provider, and then use the phone with any other service providers' SIM cards. Yet I couldn't buy the AT&T-Wireless branded Audiovox phone and get the equipment rebate for our Cingular account. My other option was to pay full price for the Audiovox phone (essentially $150 more), pay to unlock it, and then swap the SIM card from our existing phone to use the Audiovox with our Cingular number.

The store manager also knew quite a lot about UMTS. He told me that before the merger, the San Diego area where I live was slated to become the fourth UMTS-enabled market. But he's not sure what Cingular plans now. The UMTS-enabled handsets that AT&T Wireless was offering seem to have disappeared from the Web site. Perhaps the handsets are still sold in markets where UMTS is already operating, such as San Francisco. I'll be up in San Francisco next week and will try to drop by a few Cingular stores.

Meanwhile, Cingular just lost a chance to lock my wife and son down with a new two-year contract. Despite the fact that they both want new phones, and one of the existing phones has some annoying but nonfatal problems, I'm going to wait for a couple more months, when we'll be able to shop as free agents. I'd really hate to move my family away from the GSM world, but I like the looks of the Verizon CDMA-based 3G service. We can always keep the Sony Ericsson world phones to use on trips with prepaid SIM cards.


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Reader Comments



at 3/4/2005 9:36:16 AM, Eliot J said:
I've had AT&T service for several years now. The other day I received a new bill.
The account number was 000000
the phone number was 00000000
the pay now amount was $0.00

I called their customer service number. After wading through the VR, I was put on hold to talk to a rep. 45 minutes later I hung up.

Glad I called from a land line.




at 3/4/2005 9:36:22 AM, Eliot J said:
I've had AT&T service for several years now. The other day I received a new bill.
The account number was 000000
the phone number was 00000000
the pay now amount was $0.00

I called their customer service number. After wading through the VR, I was put on hold to talk to a rep. 45 minutes later I hung up.

Glad I called from a land line.




at 3/9/2005 2:12:17 PM, djg said:
Thanks for taking the time to express the disappointment many of us feel when it comes to the level of customer service provided by the cellular carriers.

As long as people are accepting of it (and the actual quality of service), I fear nothing will really change until a next generation service is deployed by a company with vision.

"let my people go"



at 3/10/2005 9:05:26 AM, dave m said:
The type of person that "unlocks" their phone is the same type of person that can't understand why the data won't work and blames the carrier for lack of perfomance. They cause their own problems and will spend the rest of their days blaming everyone else. I call it "outsmarting themselves"



at 4/7/2005 8:19:01 PM, Jason said:
I have had AT&T Wireless since they came to Atlanta with Digital One Rate. While their rates were always high, I stayed with them because the customer service was generally perfect with great loyalty rewards anytime I wanted to upgrade (even if my coontract was a long way from finishing) and great flexibility on modifying my plan without signing a new contract. Cingular is not that way. BTW - they have frozen shipments of the MPX220 w/o giving a reason.



at 10/13/2005 10:18:47 PM, Dennis said:
Dave M - What the hell are you talking about?? How am I "outsmarting myself" by unlocking my phone? How is it so inconceivable to you and Cingular that I might have a legitimate reason for using another SIM card in another area of the world?



at 11/29/2005 4:03:44 PM, Batman said:
Cingular's Competitive Weakness!

Wanted to do a backup on my stored phone numbers (1057 #'s), called cingular to ask how to get a print out of the numbers (Sprint, Verizon, etc all have print out capabilities)and Sprint advised they had NO capability to print my stored numbers... are you kidding me here? Said they could transfer the SIM card to new device. Not if the SIM card has been sumberged in Salt Water (i.e. Gulf of Mexico).



at 11/29/2005 4:07:39 PM, Batman said:
Correction to above email from 11/29/05 @ 4:03:44 PM

MY error => Sprint did not advise IT WAS CINGULAR Whom ADVISED THEY COULD NOT DO A PRINT OUT of my stored numbers!!!

Sorry for the confusion
Batman



at 5/1/2006 2:04:30 PM, Mike said:
Good lord. My head is spinning. I make cell phone calls only in the US. Use Unicel from Northern Maine. After your article I presume if I ever travel abroad I'll write letters. I surely can't believe you expect the average human to follow anything about your comments. It leads me to think there is a long way to go to universal communications with a simple plan.



at 7/18/2006 5:22:51 AM, JP said:
Cingular must cease and desist with their advertising campaign about the fewest dropped calls of any cellular network -- it's a total scam. Every day, I'm dropped 6 times, never had this problem with Sprint, Nextel or Verizon. And the Razor by Motorola is a piece of sh*t, typical of American products, they should not be allowed to develop any products, they just don't get it.



at 9/1/2006 9:37:13 AM, gnod said:
The fewest dropped calls is the network. If you are dropping, it is your phone. get a good one or call to have the proper updates put on it.

If you are still dropping calls it is probably just a transition period or someone suppressing radio frequencies.





at 10/18/2006 5:33:12 PM, JE said:
Cingular had excellent service and coverage before they combined with AT&T. I was told to go in and exchange my SIM chip for a new one. When I did, I lost my great signal at/in my home. After 3 visits to Cingular to get the same level of service I had before the SIM change, they told me they could not put my old SIM back in. A store manager took me aside and told me that they had switched networks (towers) and ‘technology’ and that the AT&T signals do not penetrate through buildings or structures as well. Hence, bad reception and bad service. ‘Fewer Dropped Calls’ it simply is not true!



at 1/4/2007 6:14:10 PM, Marcia said:
I received a bill from Cingular that was grossly over stated, it was 5 times plus my standard usage cost. They rebilled me for the previous month (october '06) and subsequently caused every day's phone usage to incur a cost outside of the standard allotted minutes. I called up to remedy this ill and an agent gave me some retarded opinion as to the course of action I should take to remedying the problem that they created. After simply reiterating what she had told me, for clarification, she said that I was making her life/job/situation more difficult than it was aready. What a harsh and inappropriate response from a represntative. She needs to leave her unkind and verbal belittling at home. Though she is not Cingular she reflects their training and culture. This company is inconsistent and void of customer sensitivity. The other issue is that of the whole migration from AT&T to Cingular. If I switch I will be incurring a $10/mth additional charge because Cingular does not have a plan that reflects the one I had with AT&T,and am currently using. Why should a customer pay for Cingular's lack of foresight. I appreciate that companies are in business to relize profits but I wasn't aware that they were also in business to SHAFT CUSTOMERS and behave UNETHICALLY! I am so not renewing my contract with these theives!



at 3/31/2007 8:17:03 PM, cc said:
cingular/att, does not think they have to pay there rental taxes on towers on time. and ask for a rent reduction, have you ever herd of such a thing from a multi billion doller co.... YES... these people think they can take and do what they want to the little people even though they rent from us and we pay them monthly for c-ph. service. Question... what happens when you don't pay your c-ph bill on time?? you get extra charges and shut off. they are now 3 quaters behind in their tax payments and think they dont have to abide by the rules the rest of US live by. what makes multimillion dollar co. more special then the people they sell too / and or rent from?? PLEASE PASS THIS INFO. ON THIS IS FIRST HAND INFO.



at 4/12/2007 12:57:51 PM, me said:
I moved and was relying on my wireless internet card from Cingular for my laptop use. I kept getting disconnected from the internet and had to restart the card, which constantly would give me error messages. I got a land line at my apartment with DSL nad have had no problems since. I dropped my wireless card account and was told it would be $175 for early termination of the contract. No problem. I let the cell phone bill go for a couple of months and now have just received a bill for $890. The cell phone has been shut off for a few weeks. The monthly charges have been higher than when I was paying for two phones. I called a "customer service rep" who didn''''''''''''''''t seem to get a clue that it did not make sense that the charges were even higher that before I dropped the wireless card. Cell phone companies are totally out of control.



at 5/21/2007 3:43:18 PM, fedup said:
Cingular sold their soul to the DEVIL. AT&T, They don't care about their customers, they will lay u off, and raise your rates. I been with cingular since 1995, and have been consistently late since then. My bill is due at the beginning of the month, and they will never get paid before my mortgage. so I would pay for it after that. Cingular never bother me. The day AT&T took over, and since they call me to threaten they are going to cut me off. If they do so what



at 6/22/2007 6:09:10 AM, Betrayed said:
I have been looking for a site where I could share my frustration with the Cingular/AT&T merger. I was convinced that the companies would soon resolve the issues caused by the merger, as there are always issues. However, my service has not improved. I have more dropped calls and less coverage than I''ve ever had (as a Cingular customer). I tried to contact customer service via their web-site but I could not find a representative for ''old'' Cingular customers. I believe it''s time for me, my husband, and son to find a new provider.



at 6/24/2007 4:13:21 AM, Yossarian said:
Got to love this latest Catch-22:

FP300: Due to your account type we are unable to process your password reset on the website. You must request a temporary password be sent to your phone. Please see the option below to have your temporary password sent via text message to your phone.

What is the problem that caused me to want to log in and check my account status? Yep, you got it, I can''t receive text messages.



at 7/4/2007 5:42:05 AM, BelElDel said:
When everyone else's bars went up, mine went down. I am told that when the AT&T merger went thru, they had to give some towers to competitors. Before this merger I could make calls from my home. Not any more. They tell me to turn my phone off and on several times a day and maybe that will help. What a joke.



at 8/11/2007 7:07:45 AM, Kimba said:
I'm with BelElDel ... We've had a great signal with Cingular for years. Now we have nothing except constant dropped calls. The bars on my phone go up and down like a roller coaster!! I've spent approximately 8 hours on the phone with incompetant Customer Service Reps who have tried to explain away the problem as phone issues, which it is not. I live in Foster, RI and all the Cingular/AT&T customers in this area are having the same problem - no service. Unfortunately, I was told the problem was fixed, which it wasn't. I was also told that there isn't a problem, and that I have excellent service in my area. All this while I'm calling from a land-line, and their tech is trying to call my cell phone, but can't contact me because I have NO signal. When they finally get through and begin speaking - guess what - dropped call!! However, they still insist there is no problem in the area. I have cancelled my account after trying to fix the problem since 7/23 (today is 8/11). We've switched to T-Mobile. Unfortunately, they are telling me I have to pay an early cancellation fee on one of my lines in the amount of $175!!! They switched the towers, or whatever they've done with this merger, created no service for my home area, and expect me to pay them an early cancellation fee!! I don't think so ... the battle will continue. I will not give up the fight!! I'm sick and tired of being treated like I'm the idiot by their customer service reps who don't know how to do their jobs ....



at 8/25/2007 11:06:56 PM, Giovanni said:
The AT&T customer service reps are totally incompetent. I just upgraded my phone and was unable to access the browser on my new phone. When I talked with a rep she consulted her manager who told me that I would have to sign up for a more expensive media pkg in order to have that feature back. Then the actual rep I was talking with told me that she believed her manager was wrong and that I should go to one of their stores and see if the people there could help me. Unable to get to a store right away, I decided to try e-mailing customer service in an attempt to get an answer. Figured best out of 3 may be the only way to figure out who actually knows what they're talking about. I received a return e-mail from customer service thanking me for my inquirery and stating that the rep had removed my complete media pkg feature from my account and that I need to purchase a bundle pkg twice the amount I was paying just to have basic browser service. I can live without the browser service, but in removing my features the idiot also removed my messaging feature. Now I'm left wondering if the simple truth is that both these companies are filled with complete idiots???



at 9/3/2007 1:52:05 AM, the merger sucks said:
I have been with cingular for the past 8 years, I never had a problem until the merger happened. My browser is always not working, my texts dont send and I drop 8/10 calls per day!!!! I am not happy. At&t walks right in, takes the name and makes the cell phone service CRAP!



at 10/9/2007 11:29:20 AM, CYI said:
I was with Cellular One when they were acquired by AT&T Wireless. It wasn't bad except for a few places along I880. When they announced that AT&T Wireless was being acquired by Cingular, I immediately switched to Verizon. I had heard endless horror stories about Cingular in Silicon Valley. Also, the Mercury News, at one point had rated the wireless companies. Verizon and AT&T were good. Cingular, Nextel, and Sprint were bad. T-Mobile shared the same network as Cingular, so they were also bad. I recall reading an article about how Cingular admitted that their service was bad, but continued to sign up new subscribers because of competitive pressure. That's just plain unethical - continue to sign up new customers knowing that they can't deliver. As far as I'm concerned, AT&T and Cingular deserve each other. And, no matter how cool the iPhone is, I will never purchase one as long as AT&T is the exclusive service provider. Unfortunately, I don't have a choice of land line service providers. If I did, I would definitely not choose AT&T.

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