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Wednesday, March 25, 2009

The Tata People's Car may come to North America

Mar 25 2009 12:35PM | Permalink |Comments (36) |


Some time ago we noted the announcement of the Tata Motors Nano, a car designed to sell in the India market for under $2,000. At that time we also commented that if the Nano succeeded in creating a new category of cars in the global market it could change the nature of automotive electronics and considerably dim many marketeers' visions of a the car of a thousand microcontrollers. Much has changed since then.

One thing is that the Nano was officially launched on 23 March, with, as promised, a starting price of Rs100,000: just under $2,000 US at current exchange rates. But along with the launch came some interesting comments from Ratan Tata, the head of the Tata Group, according to an article in the Financial Times. Tata said that there are already plans to sell a version of the Nano in the European market in 2011. More interestingly for our purposes, he also said that the Group is now designing a version of the Nano for export to the United States, perhaps also as early as 2011. Reportedly the Nano as it stands already meets EU emissions and most EU safety requirements, and can be adapted to meet US regulations as well.

So the possibility of the little car becoming a global product is now very close to a reality. Whether it will be successful in the US is another question. But it is not hard to construct a plausible scenario in which the Nano-US could repeat the conquest of this supposedly hostile market that the Volkswagen achieved almost half a century ago.

At that time too, experts tried to explain that US customers only wanted large cars, that small, low-powered vehicles would not be acceptable on US highways, that the US market had no interest in fuel efficiency, that an inexpensive car would never be reliable enough for the long distances people drove in the US, and so on. Turned out, especially after the 1973 Arab Oil Embargo, that these statements weren't necessarily predictive.

It's easy to argue that we are in a similar situation today. The US auto industry has blundered itself into an even more disabling situation than it was in at the end of 1973. This time it is essentially insolvent, and without customers. And the economic situation might very well still be favorable to a very-low-priced new car in the US by 2012. Unless countries with major cash reserves really can be talked into buying $2,000 billion in US Treasury securities, it's hard to envision a quick exit from the current global recession. And unless even the more centrist petroleum geologists are wrong, we are in a temporary downward blip in oil prices—not something that could even count as a remission.

Combine lower household income, high risk of unemployment, high debt-service payments, high gasoline prices, and an uncertain future into one scenario, and ask yourself what you would consider when it became necessary to replace your existing commuter car. Certainly relying on mass transit won't be an option, as state and local governments are already throwing mass transit under the bus (as it were) to balance their budgets. Even if Tata has to double the entry price of the Nano for the US market, it would still, at under $4,000, be cheaper than a reliable used car.

So it's plausible that the Nano could take off in the US and Europe. It's highly likely that it will be a success in India, most of Asia, and Africa by 2012 or so. Other automakers will have to respond. And there you have a scenario for reversing the growing electronics complement in automobiles, and refocusing what electronics there are on lower vehicle cost and higher efficiency. Don't be surprised.


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Reader Comments



at 3/25/2009 1:11:16 PM, PracticalConsumer said:
I would be interested in buying Tata''s low cost car if it becomes available in the U.S. The Detroit management that thought keeping their manufacturing in high cost of living union crippled states instead of moving it to lower cost of living right-to-work states also completely misread what consumers want from an automobile. I doubt the rich Detroit managers and union bosses care, they''ve already lined their pockets.



at 3/25/2009 5:46:37 PM, Nostalgia said:
I can''''t wait to drive a car wihout a radio, power steering, power brakes, ABS, stabilitrak, air bags, power windows, gauges, heads up, lane departure, crumple zones, bumpers, power mirrors, dimming mirrors, traction control, HID headlights, ... It will remind me of my poor college years in the 70''''s when I just needed the car to get me somewhere. But wait, even that car had crumple zones, power steering, gauges and a radio. Enjoy your nano, practical consumer. I''''ve moved up. Personally, thanks detroit for building cars with more safety and convenience.



at 3/26/2009 1:46:17 PM, BubbaDave said:
I wonder if I''d even notice a Nano bouncing off of my F250 Super Duty Crew Cab Diesel.



at 3/26/2009 1:48:20 PM, Jocko said:
Not having seen one, I suspect that it is very small. Colliding with a mid size car or SUV would not be good.



at 3/26/2009 1:48:40 PM, gb6 said:
F = ma and in a collision mv^2 = mv^2. My family drives a Suburban.



at 3/26/2009 1:52:15 PM, RV'er said:
What's the tow rating?



at 3/26/2009 1:55:39 PM, Facts Right said:
Guys, Remove all doubt. The car can seat 4 people comfortably, with a fairly good boot space and great looks.



at 3/26/2009 1:57:22 PM, Sceptic1 said:
This engineer reserves judgement until he has driven and read the Consumer Reports review of the US version of the Tata Nano. I lived through the first beetle invasion and owned or drove several primitive small cars. Simple and reliable can be good. 59 Renault Dauphine, 59 Volvo P122S, 57 SAAB 92, 69 Saab 96, 77 Chevy Chevette, 86 Isuzu Trooper,96 Jeep Grand Cherokee, 2008 Honda Fit.



at 3/26/2009 1:58:01 PM, Ha! said:
Too bad Detroit doesn''t build cars with reliability.



at 3/26/2009 2:00:01 PM, Hats-off said:
Hats-off to Tata to have delivered well on their promise of launching the people''s car IN UNDER $2000. CHECK THIS OUT: tatanano.inservices.tatamotors.com/tatamotors/



at 3/26/2009 2:00:25 PM, chuckster said:
I have a 98'' Chevy Metro LSI, and if I could get a new one at a reasonable price ($5K to $6K), I would buy it. The Metro has sufficient room, airbags, A/C (mine is diabled by having no belt drive), radio, and heater, with a Automatic transmission. When the Nano can reach the same level of car, it will be a winner! I get 40+ mpg and it rides well. I guess either the folks in the US and/or Chevy just didn''t catch on that eventually we''d get screwed at the gas pump.



at 3/26/2009 2:00:34 PM, GovernmentMotors said:
I am wanting to be part of Tata motors. I want to be part of any company with the forsight and backbone to do something different, anything different, than simply playing follow the leader. You want to see what grownups look like when they play follow the leader? Just open your eyes and look at Government Motors (GM that is). Gene



at 3/26/2009 2:01:33 PM, Chevyman said:
Hey, Nostalgia, in a Nano the passengers are the crumple zone.



at 3/26/2009 2:05:38 PM, Joe said:
Big or small I love tatas



at 3/26/2009 2:07:22 PM, newfuture said:
Provide a product that people want at an affordable price and let the market place take care of the rest. The Hummers, Suburbans,F-250''s and the like will become relics soon enough, just like the muscle cars of the 60''s, cheap gas and lots of HP. The US is like the last frontier for big steel, no where else does it exist.



at 3/26/2009 2:07:50 PM, Chris said:
This is a great milestone given the challenges the project faced. I also recall the likes of Hondas, Toyotas and GMs writing it off as a fad.



at 3/26/2009 2:10:27 PM, HereWeGoAgain said:
Anybody remember the Yugo?
Looks like it will be back under a different name



at 3/26/2009 2:11:26 PM, HereWeGoAgain said:
Anybody remember the Yugo?
Looks like it will be back under a different name



at 3/26/2009 2:27:56 PM, Undecided said:
Pluses: 55 mpg, US price around $4000, probably more like $5500 fully loaded.

Minuses: Primarily plastic construction, 4 gallon gas tank, 3 cubic feet of trunk space unless you fold down the back seats, max speed of 65mph

It should work for in town driving, but not for suburbanites.



at 3/26/2009 2:42:13 PM, Pete990 said:
Rather, in a collision m1V1+m2V2 (before)=m1V1+m2V2 (after). My family too drives a Suburban.



at 3/26/2009 2:47:55 PM, Bruce said:
I just bought a small 20-year old Honda for under $2000 with 115K miles. It gets 30+ mpg in town and the only power item is the sunroof and a great stereo. No A/C. I love it. Manual trans, steering, and windows. There''s almost nothing to break! This car got decent crash ratings and has proven to be very reliable. It parks anywhere.

Early reports on the Nano are unclear as to its crash-worthiness and durability. But I would consider it. Most commuter trips are a few miles at low speed, close to home. A small efficient car would do fine for those.

I also try to bike and/or ride the bus at least 3 days a week.

Visited Denmark a while ago where many people don''t own a car and most bike and walk to commute. There''s a lot we could do here in the US to be more thrifty and efficient. We have the smarts and the motivation. It''s nice to see people open to new ideas and trying new things, such as electric car conversions.



at 3/26/2009 2:49:51 PM, About time! said:
Someone is listening to the average Joe, how much should a car cost. These companies can get a car out of their factory how fast with new technology and saving thousands of dollars per vehicle and the savings are only going into their pockets and the only thing being past down to the customer a heaver pricetag. In the 50-70''s how much did a car cost (5k was a lot) It may not be a suburban but no one will have to pay for that car for 5 years to get it paid off. How may of us have taken out loans for 3+ years to get a car (Sheet metal, Plastic bumpers and a steel frame if we are lucky) to get us from point A to point B. Thinking we are SAFE?



at 3/26/2009 2:52:08 PM, anonymous_rakgcain said:
Nostaligia said: "Personally, thanks Detroit for building cars with more safety and convenience."

You get what you pay for. The Nano is not a toy car. For someone graduating from a "scooter" to a car - it is definitely more safe. In India four people (H+W+2kids) can travel on a scooter. Now Nano definitely provides more security to them.
Compare apples and apples not a car and tank. You want safety-why even settle for a Hummer-why not a tank (think Lada from Russia)-you want mileage-well why not use a scooter that gives 40 km/ltr. You want both..well choose a point at which you are comfortable (safety+economy) and buy the car. Why are you trashing the Nano when you do not even know the capabilities. There are deluxe versions with AC, collapsing steering etc. Rest assured that Tata group will have done their homework before introducing the car in the US.

Look up image results in google for "Tata Nano scooter." For some even $2K is a luxury.





at 3/26/2009 2:52:40 PM, Bruce said:
Price check: According to their web site, the price is more like Rs $123,000 to 172,000 in Delhi.



at 3/26/2009 3:06:57 PM, FunnyThing_Safety said:
It''s not the size of the force of impact that matters, or even the discrepency in mass. What matters is how the design reacts to the impact, and that can be handled and accounted for in nearly every scenario. I drove a 1990 Honda CRX for 10 years, and never felt unsafe.

WRT Detroit, it really is a faliure of management, not of unions. It''s important to remember that unions are a *reaction* to oppression



at 3/26/2009 3:07:40 PM, Manofmoon said:
For that price, who wouldn't like to get their hands on a pair of gorgeous TaTa's



at 3/26/2009 3:08:30 PM, jikester said:
If you''ve been to India you''ll know it will have a good horn, doesn''t need to go fast (no roads we''d recognize and full of carts, bikes, cows, etc.), can be fixed by bicycle mechanics, will pollute, run on low octane gas, doesn''t have to be comfortable, will be noisy, and won''t have any safety concerns built in. This may fit some US folks concept for a car, but probably the peoples- idealogical non-buyer segment best.



at 3/26/2009 4:57:46 PM, Arek said:
I wonder how many Americans would actually fit into it. I suppose not many.
Perhaps only the illegal immigrants...



at 3/26/2009 9:12:19 PM, Lol said:
I bought a Tata Utility turbo diesel. Appart from the total lack of power and torque, it blew a head gasket at 15,000km. The dealer semi admitted that it isnt the first one he has seen do that. Oh, and it was $20,000au for the ute



at 3/27/2009 12:38:14 AM, GM said:
The world future market is not the US, nor is it the EU. Its Asia/Africa etc and for these places this would be the most ideal/efficient mode of transportation. I would go as far as to say that this would be the ideal car for many of the big cities that are currently bogged down by traffic, think NY during peak hours. Btw, how many hrs/day do you listen to your radio in your car? Do you know why ppl have accidents? They know that the car mfg have spent billions trying to make sure you survive a crash and spend more on new car!!!
Americans laughed at the Japs previously and its the turn of the Indians. Guess who will have the last laugh!



at 3/27/2009 6:14:57 AM, USS MONITOR said:
The AMERICAN car companies still don''t get it. I have not seen GM, FORD or Chrysler lower prices on their vehicles. The UAW should be dissolved. They are one of the biggest reasons why we cannot compete globally. If their wages and benefits are in line with HONDA & TOYOTA in the US then why is the union needed at all?



at 3/27/2009 2:04:40 PM, USAistheBEST said:
If you want the good life, no country beats America. We buy expensive cars because we can afford to. UAW jobs are the best jobs for the folks who live in those states. STOP THE RACE TO THE BOTTOM. I''m an Indian American and I choose to live here because we have so much more here than in other countries. Education is good and free (could be better --but it takes good parents to push their kids too). Infrastructure is good. Opportunities are the best in the world. STOP KNOCKING AMERICA AND START MAKING IT BETTER. We don''t need cheaper anything. We need higher paying jobs here. Bring back tariffs!



at 4/1/2009 12:43:38 PM, Chris PE said:
I don''t even know where to start.First of all last problem with gas prices was cause by British and mostly American greedy speculators, not by Arabs.
Tata has a long way to get to our market.By that time we will have tested and performinmg Fiat cars on the roads and once people see them , nobody will ny Nano.In two years domestic hybrids and electric cars will just swipe Nano "under the carpet" It will take at least that long to make Nano usable for US specifications , because they will never be safe or good choice of our weather changes and icy roads.Interesting article and discussion.By the way Yugo was a Mercedes comearing to Nano.If anyone expects Yugo''s luxury from Nano he must have never seen it. Yugo was just an "offspring" from Fiat 126 and far superior to Nano with scooter engine. Let''s not dream about Nano and hope that Chrysler will bring Fiats here.They have 80 years experience in building cars of all kinds.



at 4/14/2009 4:15:56 PM, DM said:
Rather than a comparison with Volkswagen, I think a comparison with the Yugo is more accurate. For those who don't remember, the Yugo was available in the mid to late 80s in the US for $4500 ($9000 in today's money) in then dollars, and was complete garbage. Unless Tata has managed to reduce manufacturing costs by several factors, it will be even less competitive than the Yugo. Remember that the Yugo was based on a Fiat, and Fiat itself was killed in the US car market.




at 5/26/2009 11:29:19 AM, theDagda said:
gb6 said:
"F = ma and in a collision mv^2 = mv^2. My family drives a Suburban. "

Yeah, and all that extra energy in the collision goes into your body; my Honda dissipates that energy so that very little of it does. My family is very much safer than yours.



at 7/3/2009 1:03:08 AM, sebastina mont said:
I would be interested in buying Tata''s low cost car if it becomes available in Argentina. What are the posibilities for that?
thanks

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