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Tuesday, October 7, 2008

McCain or Obama: Who's better for tech?

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When I first started looking at the November presidential election in February, I asked who our readers preferred out of the then multitude of candidates and why. Ron Paul stood out in your replies because, as readers described in the post's comment section, he is "at least tolerable on his tech issues."

That was eight months ago, and in that time Paul missed the nomination, as did other once-considered-viable campaigners Hillary Clinton, Mitt Romney, and Mike Huckabee. Now we're down to two, and just four weeks to Election Day here in the United States.

In those eight months I've been researching and researching and researching, grasping at straws, trying to cobble together a true sense of the two remaining opponents, Republican John McCain and Democrat Barack Obama, and their stances on technology and the policies that will impact the industry. But after eight months, all I have is a pile of straws.
 
The most McCain and Obama have said thus far as to tech can be found here, where the two briefly answer 14 science/tech questions on topics like climate change, innovation and US competitiveness, STEM education, R&D, and national security. While you should visit the page, as well as the two opponents' Web sites for a glimpse at their views on tech, expect just that—a glimpse. And expect that glimpse to be so heavily buried with political buzz terms and slick wording that you'll need a shovel.

Neither side, in my opinion, has placed tech in as high a position as it should be. We're a nation dependant on and economically driven by consumer electronics like cell phones, laptops, and TiVos. We're a nation of aging baby boomers who need affordable healthcare through medical technologies. We're a nation reliant on foreign oil that needs alternative energy solutions. We're a nation constantly under risk of attack and one that is currently at war that needs better national security brought not by additional bodies in the military but by better defense technologies. While the two campaigns have discussed the economy, healthcare, alternative energy, and national security, they haven't, at least not as publicly as they could be, credited technology as the force behind their claimed answers to the issues.
 
McCain took far took long to get his technology agenda up online and Obama, who did so early on, recently changed his public statements on tech, focusing more on science and America's competitiveness, and to include his running mate Joe Biden's views. See this side-by-side comparison and note the differences (or what my EDN co-worker Brian Dipert described as "backpedaling") on issues like net neutrality and prosecution for telecom wiretapping.

While they differ on details, both candidates recognize (or claim to recognize) that federally funded tech research and its fruits are a cornerstone of America's competitiveness and recognize (or, again, claim to recognize) the need for scientific advisement in the White House. To be true, our current administration also has advisors, claims to support tech, and has allotted funding for it—it just hasn't spent it.

Obama is clearly more tech savvy than McCain, using tools like social media to win support, but that of course doesn't mean he's the better man for the job. Therein, however, lays possibly tech's biggest influence on the campaigns so far. Like Bill Clinton's sax playing appearance on the "Arsenio Hall Show," Obama here is reaching for younger voters—younger, more tech savvy voters. That needs to be kept in mind in polling, which is mostly conducted by landline phone, edging out many 20-somethings who may only have a mobile phone (of course, they may also be getting their political info solely from Tina Fey "Saturday Night Live" skits).

From where I stand, it's a flip of the coin when it comes to tech and our next president. Just like on all issues, promises made may or may not be kept once the new guy moves into 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in January.

So, sans Ron Paul, who do you think is better for tech and why? Voice your opinions below.


Reader Comments


at 10/7/2008 11:34:14 AM, Farid said:
believe me you don't want government to get involved in technology. The moment that happens, you can forget about ever decreasing prices of technology at the rate it is right now. You need a hint? take a look at healthcare and see what happened after government got involved. How about ethanol subsidies. Did it bring the price of oil down? or the price of corn up?

at 10/7/2008 11:49:28 AM, Kay said:
I absolutely agree...Keep government OUT of technology!

at 10/7/2008 12:11:45 PM, Paul said:
I'm kinda confused about the last 2 comments with regard to technology. Of course Government plays a large role in technology at the research and development level and implementation in some cases such as Military and Space. Many Universities recieve Government grants for research while Technology industries also get R&D funds and tax breaks for these types of activities. Take a step back folks....geezzzzzzz

at 10/7/2008 1:48:04 PM, Robocat said:
Technology is far reaching, investing in basic technology such as alternative energy is an investment in our security, investment in science is an investment in our security, investment in mass transit and less expensive transportation is an investment in our security. And surprise, all that investment fuels jobs knowledge and prosperity right here in the good old USA.

at 10/7/2008 2:03:47 PM, ljs said:
If you want government out of technology you cannot even consider Obama. Obama is all about BIG, BIG government. On the other hand, he hates our military - so don't expect investment there. Oh, by the way, don't expect all the big grants to continue either - we are broke as a nation thanks to the last 30 years of social experimentation by the democrats... McCain certainly is not much of a winner, but clearly is the best pick of the two.

at 10/7/2008 2:24:44 PM, Farid said:
Paul, I see where you are coming from, but I'll give you an example. There was a "private" competition a few years ago on who could reach earth's orbit and come back down safely. There was a lot of people who competed in the race and they spent only a fraction of what NASA spends yearly (taxpayer dollar). Even though NASA has done great things, it is not the most efficient space or technology engine. There are commercial spacecrafts orbiting earth all the time and they are doing it for much cheaper price. But thats not what I really meant originally. By technology I was only refering to the computer industry and how it is so efficient and fast paced without the hand of uncle sam meddling in between. Right now you get computers hundreds of times (if not thousands) faster lesser priced than computers only few years ago. What I am trying to say is that government subsidies don't work. They only "shift" the market without actual knowledge of that field's effectiveness. Like the example i gave earlier, if government didn't subsidies corn, then the market would have figured out long ago that ethanol production is not very efficient.

at 10/7/2008 2:48:12 PM, Dallas, TX said:
Obama has expressed an open vision of our USA future inclusive of new technology promoted by engaging tax incentives and emphasis on eduction to foster that technological development in the States. A president cannot know the details of technological advancement. He can, however, lead in a way that enables the brightest minds to work together and solve our critical social/economic problems.

at 10/8/2008 9:23:47 AM, Meredith Poor said:
Presidents have almost no influence on anything. John Kennedy proposed that we go to the moon and back. That was a few hours composing a speech and asking Congress for money. The was probably about all that he did in terms of time and expenditure of political capital, but the consequence coun't have been more far reaching. ~~~ Jimmy Carter understood technology. He presided over one of the worst periods in American history. ~~~ Bill Clinton was pretty lucky to preside over 8 years of monster growth. Did he have any personal role in it? Doubtful. He focused his efforts on domestic policy, but after the first two years he was facing a hostile Republican majority in Congrees. They were the ones that wanted tech investment.

at 10/8/2008 2:13:58 PM, Tamza said:
Farid: you are confusing technology AND politics. Ethanol is a farm subsidy, NOT an alternative energy program. The semiconductor industry grew out of defense, as did the internet. The point is government FUNDS basic research, where the risks are greatest .. and you dont want the benefits of that stuff to be restricted by patents. SO the government funds basic research, then ALL have access to the findings to convert it to 'products' ie: applied research. I am sure you can list other technologies developed with government (taxpayer!) support.

at 10/8/2008 3:44:29 PM, Macguy said:
The DMCA was enacted in 1998, under the Clinton administration. McCain and the republicans in general have always been for less government. Need we say more?

at 10/9/2008 8:20:43 AM, bill said:
i'm guessing by the sort-sighted comments that ljs is a republican. though i don't supoort either candidate, you have to at least base your opinion on fact. the overwhelming theme of all the responses is to keep government OUT of it...and i could not agree more. the ethanol example is a good one...and there are many more. R&D I much more efficient, and much less costly, when left to the private sector...left alone by any government "help" (see Farid's NASA example)

at 10/10/2008 9:05:26 AM, gov't involvement unfortunate said:
Yes, government was involved in development of steam-ships and telegraphs in the 19th century... unfortunately. Today, they seem to think the greatest thing to do is throw some money at it, in the form of grants... which nearly always go to people who don't need them and use them to keep other bright people out of the market. sigh. Tax credits for R&D, for flying in US citizen STEM workers for interviews, relocating them, and educating and training them wouldn't be quite so bad in the scheme of things as what they have been doing.

at 10/10/2008 10:34:38 AM, GaryH said:
While the US relies to a great extent technology based business growth the opposite is also very true. So which candidate will be best for the country as a whole is what counts. If one believes that McCain and Palin are the better choice for the country they should vote that way irrespective of technology. However, my belief is that like G. Bush, McCain and Palin would be a disaster and for the same reasons.

at 10/10/2008 2:16:26 PM, Andara said:
If you like the way Bush & Co have run things for the last 8 years, then you want to vote for McCain (often called McSame or McBush for the fact that his actual voting record is in direct line with his party). If you think the last 8 years was a disaster at the top, then you'll want to go with Obama. Regardless of anything else, however, you might also want to consider their backgrounds, histories, and temperaments. McCain has a history of explosive outbursts, womanizing, and outright lying whenever it suits him (he and Cindy lived together as man and wife even before he divorced Carol), and his age and poor health are not to be dismissed. Technology included, I don't find anything in McCain that I can, in good conscience, support.

at 10/10/2008 3:09:17 PM, Old Salt said:
Since this post has deteriorated into a political blog, a look at past examples is in order. McCain is definitely no Ronald Reagan. But, Obama is very much Jimmy Carter. The economy cannot recover with the massive tax increases demanded by his plans to spend more on everything except the military. The success of technology industries dependes on a robust economy, so Obama would kill much of the technology sector.

at 10/10/2008 4:09:50 PM, al said:
Past history shows that Republicans are better for business and technology. Democrats are better for people who are less well off.

at 10/12/2008 12:14:15 PM, old dude said:
Considering the comment by Andara...and considering the current financial crisis that can be clearly traced to Democrats, with Obama one of the top receivers of Fannie/Freddie political donations you should think a little longer about what you call change. FF actually was started under Carter, expanded under Clinton with Obama on a legal team threatening to sue lenders that did not make high risk loans. Its all in public records excluding main stream media. As to tech spending, considering that Obama is likely to rape the military, has made noises of 1 trillion aid outside the us and the fact that we have a tremendous debt do you REALLLY think he is going to invest in new technology?

at 10/12/2008 12:27:00 PM, old dude said:
old dude forgot to ask the question: when obama promises tax reductions for 95 % of tax payers and 30% of tax payers are NOT paying taxes: where do you think the money for tech will come from? By the way for you folks that seem to think Bush is a convenient way explain the evil in the world: READ UP ON YOUR GOVERNMENT: Congress controls spending and proposes budgets. We have had dems controlling that for the last 2 years. Bush has the power to reject the budget only. You mention Obama means change...do you realize that he voted in favor of killing babies born alive who survived botched abortions? Is that the "moral " change you mean? If you appreciate technology then you must have some notion of the "objective" pursuit of knowledge...verify the facts rather than "chant". God help us.

at 10/13/2008 6:27:45 AM, AtlasDave said:
Don't confuse the business of technology with the research and design of it. The "dot com" years of Clinton were about business, not technology. We were playing with the savings from millions of Americans 401K plans set up by Reagan. Looking back at recent history you find that most of our technological advances in the past 75 years have come as a result of government spending. Mostly for the military and the space program. They have the deepest pockets (ours) and don't have to justify ANY "return on investment" to us, the shareholder. Once created however, business finds a way to make profitable use of new technology. As much of a Republican as I am, the credit for much of the tech advances belongs to the public sector.

at 10/13/2008 10:43:48 AM, Andara said:
it will be coming from the top 2% of Americans who happen to have 95% of the wealth. *** On the "killing babies born alive" statement, again, do a little research and try some independent thinking rather than just following the herd blindly and believing every piece of slanderous tripe and mis-quote thrown to the pack. *** All that aside, it''s meaningless how much we throw at technology when we continue to use an educational system designed to teach for an industrial society. The world has moved on to the information age, and unless we move with it, all the money in the world won''t help.;

at 10/13/2008 10:45:25 AM, Andara said:
Lovely... cut my comment in half... here's what should have been the first half: ***** Regarding tax cuts: Do a little research on the proposals. Obama's tax plan cuts a total of 0.3%, which will have only a marginal impact. McCain, by comparison, wants to hand out a full 2.0% cut, giving most of that to those who are already the wealthiest people in the country. Plus, McCain has repeatedly stated he will put an immediate freeze on spending. Whether he includes the military depends on which minute you ask him, as he has flip-flopped repeatedly on that topic within the space of 20 minutes. *** As to where the money for tech in an Obama administration will come from, it will not be coming from the pockets of people who already have a hard time feeding themselves; it will be coming from the top 2% of Americans who happen to have 95% of the wealth.

at 10/14/2008 1:32:41 AM, 1in6billion said:
How ironic to be posting on the internet a comment such as "Keep government out of technology". Am I the only one to see this incredible irony? And to those who blame Freddie/Fannie for the economic mess you are truly ignorant. You should not comment on this until you learn about CDS's and CDO's. Also, go back to the Glass-Steigal act and its repeal and the rider Sen. Phil Gramm added to the 1999 budget that specifically stated that derivatives markets such as CDS and CDO markets should not be regulated.

at 10/20/2008 7:11:27 AM, Al said:
Obama’s plan to appoint a Chief Technology Czar highlights his failure to understand that the most innovative and effective solutions to problems come from decentralized specialists, not from top-down, command and control bureaucrats. Look at some of the antiquated electronic technology that has gone into many of NASA's exploration missions. If we had relied on government for technological innovation, I'm sure that today's computers would be made with the very finest vacuum tubes.

at 10/29/2008 2:52:05 PM, pff said:
Setting aside the pablum of overgeneralizatons and political hype, look at the reality of R&D today. Gone are the days when a company can afford to set up and fund a major research facility like Bell Labs. Its remains are a weak shadow of its former self, and are being slashed further. Like it or not, there is too much pressure on all fronts for a business to focus on short term results and growth. Government funding of long term basic research is absolutely essential to maintaing our competitiveness. I'm all for free markets and a limited role for government, but there are areas where government can and must play a positive role. Funding basic R&D is one of those areas. There is not enough short term payback to attract suficient investement from business to accomplish what needs to be done.

at 10/30/2008 5:58:37 AM, crossrulz said:
Technology that has come out because of gov''''t spending: GPS, Teflon, Internet, lasers, and the biggest of all...DUCT TAPE!!! Need I say more?

at 10/30/2008 8:33:09 AM, mustang1113 said:
I do not believe nothing MCBush has to say. Change is now vote Obama.

at 10/30/2008 9:26:37 AM, Ross said:
The private sector may be much more efficient at developing technology but what's keeping the private sector in the US? Nothing. Other governments of developing countries (i.e China) offer huge incentives for companies to setup shop. Whether it be cash, tax benefits, land, etc... Not to mention the reduced labor costs. The US does next to nothing to compete with that. Obama states he wants higher taxes for corporations. How is that going to keep tech in the USA? McCain wants to reduce taxes for corporations. That may just be fluff to garner votes but that's better than what Obama is saying.

at 11/4/2008 12:58:59 PM, wgp said:
For people that are well educated, at least technically, there are some real stereotyped, wild, wreckless generalizations of both candidates here.

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