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Monday, June 15, 2009

Thin-Air ATSC: Once Again, Microsoft's Stumble-Guilty

Jun 15 2009 9:38PM | Permalink |Comments (9) |


The U.S. analog-to-digital terrestrial television transition, a subject to which I've devoted numerous blog posts and two feature articles in recent times, finally happened last Friday. By most accounts, it went surprisingly smooth...with the exception of owners of Microsoft Windows Media Center Edition-based computers. Wait, wasn't I just writing about this issue three months ago? Why yes, I was. But as I tweeted last Friday evening, and as others subsequently also discovered, MCE's Program Guide once again went AWOL on June 12. And three days later, in spite of alerts posted by yours truly and others, along with repeated 'it's fixed' promises from Microsoft, it's still AWOL.

Here's a screenshot of a portion of my Media Center system's Program Guide, captured five minutes prior to writing these words, and subsequent to the latest in a litany of both manual guide updates and more fundamental location reconfiguration attempts over the past three days:

Notice how all of the sub-channels for each station have the same listings? That's not supposed to happen. Now let's take a look at the remainder of my Program Guide:

ABC affiliate KOLO, after having shut down its NTSC transmission in early January, migrated its digital signal from VHF channel 9 to 8 on Friday. And as was the case three months ago, the result was a perpetual 'no data available' MCE notification. Fortunately, I alternatively had access to KOLO's programming schedule via the station's website, so I was able to set up a manual recording that still netted (pun intended) me a copy of the definitive Game 5 of the NBA Finals.

Three months ago, I was told that Microsoft had put in place a long-term fix for its MCE Program Guide problems, and that the glitch absolutely positively wouldn't recur on June 12. That promise was clearly amiss. I can't believe that the company repeated its earlier mistake, and I really can't believe that three days later, the system's still broken.

Followup: Microsoft responds (bolded emphasis is mine):

Despite dedicated efforts to prepare for the digital transition, which included extensive rehearsals and testing, some Windows Media Center users receiving ATSC signals still experienced an issue relating to some of the updated channel frequencies not being processed through the new guide data feed over the weekend.

The data feed with the updated frequencies has finished processing and was made available for all clients to download early Monday. This does not require any installation on the user's part and will be delivered automatically, though it may take up to 24 hours to appear depending on location. We will continue to monitor the situation, and apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

Nice to know. But it's Tuesday evening. And my Program Guide is still messed up.


Reader Comments



at 6/16/2009 7:57:11 AM, Disillusioned said:
Microsoft exec simulated thinking {Will this affect our bloated salaries? No?} It doesn't matter. Dell, HP, Gateway, etc still have to buy and install whatever junk we sell.



at 6/16/2009 2:42:46 PM, Stiggle said:
This is the same problem we see with other Microsoft products like Windows....
The Microsoft idea is to keep selling the same stuff over and over with just a new face or some makeup. This is why I never send the error report when Microsoft Windows has a problem. It is just a further waste of my time to report problems to Microsoft. They really couldn't care less....
Instead of supporting their products, they want you to buy the new version in the hopes you have newer hardware and won't encounter the same problems you did with their old version(s) and your older hardware.



at 6/16/2009 7:01:43 PM, me yes me said:
Actualy there are times when multiple sub-channels have the same programing.
I see it all the time localy, when PBS broadcasts high def, wide screen, multi channel audio, etc. that use more than one sub channel to carry the programing.
I see them doing this even on shows that don't need it, such as the McGlofflin report, BBC news, etc.
Broadcasters are HDWSDD happy and wasting bandwidth that can't even be used by the shows being broadcast.



at 6/16/2009 7:54:13 PM, WiscNut said:
OK, let me get this straight--

Our "I'm from the Government and I'm here to help you" types worked out a marvelous new way to get OTA TV and you're using a Micros??t product to view it? Nothing's happening and you're surprised?

Hmm!



at 6/17/2009 1:39:21 PM, NJ said:
What's strange to me is that the Window Media Center that comes with Windows 7 has the RIGHT guide info.
I switch back to Vista and the guide is screwed up again. Is MS not wise enough to roll out the proper code back to the Vista platform?



at 6/17/2009 2:10:25 PM, Brian Dipert said:
Dear NJ, as my previous coverage on this issue explained, the source of and means by which Microsoft gets the data changed beginning with Windows Vista's TV Pack edition (which I don't have, and you likely don't either) and extending to upcoming Windows 7



at 6/17/2009 3:24:31 PM, JohnS said:

I can't believe no one's logged in to say that their Linux or MAC is working fine.

Where are all the fanboys!!?




at 6/17/2009 3:42:14 PM, Brian Dipert said:
Dear JohnS, Shhh...they're sleeping. Don't wake them



at 6/17/2009 3:59:05 PM, NJ said:
Dear Brian,
Thanks for the heads up. I missed your previous coverage on this. In fact, this is the first article I've read on this, period. (I searched about this back in March, but it seemed like I was the only one seeing this.)
I have Vista Ultimate, but not the TV pack. So again, thanks for the valuable info.
I should also state that the S/W that came w/ my previous tuner card could detect the subchannels and display correct info for them.

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