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Monday, March 26, 2007

H-1B visa supporters need better arguments

Mar 26 2007 2:27PM | Permalink |Email this|Comments (7) |


Bill Gates appeared before Congress earlier this month to make the case that the US should loosen immigration rules for educated workers. The Wall Street Journal last week published a dialog between Robert Hoffman, an Oracle executive and head of a hi-tech lobbying group, and Ron Hira, an engineer and a professor at Rochester Institute of Technology.

Hoffman, not surprisingly, took the side of Gates, who I have already argued has no credibility on this issue, despite the good works of his foundation. Hoffman adds little credibility with his platitudes (for example, “It's time for Congress to reform our temporary and permanent visa programs for highly skilled professionals for one simple reason: to secure America's innovative position in the global economy.”) that mask the true goal of acquiring cheap labor for Oracle and the other firms his lobbying group represents.

Hira, in rebuttal, gets down to specifics. The visa program, he writes, is seldom a bridge to immigration—instead, it’s a revolving-door training program where foreign workers train in the US briefly and then take their skills—and US jobs—home. He cites this example: “According to US Department of Labor data, Wipro, the second largest IT offshore outsourcing firm, applied for 19,450 H-1B positions in FY06 but only for 69 green cards. It is clear that Wipro has no interest in using the H-1B program as a bridge to immigration.”

He goes on to say, “We also know that the H-1B program is very poorly implemented and full of loopholes. In practice it is largely a system of self-regulation. Employers can and do pay below-market wages and many workers are exploited. The regulations in place are worse than deficient. They provide almost no protection for US workers' jobs and wages, and allow H-1B workers to be exploited…. The biggest misconception about H-1B is the widespread perception that H-1B workers are only used as a last resort. In fact, H-1B workers can be preferred over US workers and can even displace US workers. As the Department of Labor recently stated it in its strategic plan, ‘H-1B workers may be hired even when a qualified US worker wants the job, and a US worker can be displaced from the job in favor of the foreign worker.’"

As for market wages for visa holders, Hira writes, “Tata Consultancy Services was certified by the DOL to hire 10 computer programmers at $8.22 an hour and Infosys was certified to hire 100 programmers at $9.15 per hour.”

Hoffman’s response to that? “Let's get back to the bigger picture…”

I support foreign workers coming here, and for that matter I support opportunities for US workers to take foreign assignments. I have no idea what the optimum number of H-1B visas and green cards should be. I only know that the proponents of expanding the current H-1B program are doing a lousy job making their case.


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Reader Comments



at 4/6/2007 6:48:26 AM, Tom M from NY said:
H-1B's primary business use is to displace US labor with less costly foreign labor. US Business is so profit centered that they will short change the long term survival of the US's technical abilities for this Q's profit. Why should US children become engineers if the pay is better as a liberal arts major flipping burgers?



at 4/6/2007 1:12:05 PM, Bob F. said:
Unfortunately as the world becomes a smaller place to live by keeping the rpice of engineers high, all that happens is that more jobs are outsourced. The right answer is to grab every good engineer from every country in the world, so that the US holds it centers of excellence, instead of moving more and more of these job to other countries, which reduces the US competitive edge.



at 7/2/2007 5:12:48 AM, Bob said:
Tom m has it right! it is all about duispalcing american workers! and korporate AmeriKa will not any thing to accomplish it with the help of lawyers MUST see read: www.youtube.com/programmersguild www.eng-i.com/EGG.html



at 3/20/2008 5:22:54 PM, Ray McGranor said:
If Bill Gates is so concerned about the US losing it’s technical edge, why doesn't he provide College Loans or Grants to US College Student citizens vs his push for more H-1B Visas. In addition, he/ Microsoft and other such companies, needing Software and other Engineer types, need to step up and offer such incentives to US students. In addition, they could offer Work/Study ( Co-op ) programs for those already in Engineering schools and offer post graduate employment opportunities as further incentives. Work study programs such as that offered at RIT and other Technical Institutions, makes provisions for Engineering students of all disciplines to work for 3 months then attend class for 3 months in an alternating manner until graduation. This provides the employer with lower cost Engineering talent and grooms them for potential full time employment. Morever, it demonstrates a sincere interest and investment in the National Security of the United States. Today's students are uncertain that Engineering will provide them with a lifelong career and employment as companies have the opportunity to invite and hire much lower cost workers such as that provided with the H-1B Visa program. US Tech companies need to invest in our US citizen students before ever pushing to increase foreign Visa's !!!!!!



at 3/25/2008 11:20:50 AM, John Wallace said:
THE CURRENT H-1B VIA PROGRAM MUST BE ABOLISHED OR REFORMED The H-1B visa program was originally created to assist American employers who were having trouble finding American high-tech workers for their businesses. It allowed a fixed number of foreign workers come to the United States to “temporarily” fill those positions while the American companies and the federal government invested time and money in upgrading the training of American workers to meet the new skill levels required. Although the program was originally designed to benefit American businesses, it has now become a program that benefits foreign companies with offices in America, rather than American companies, because the majority of the H-1B visas are now going to foreign-owned companies. Data just released by the federal government shows that offshore outsourcing firms, mostly from India, dominate the list of companies awarded H-1B visas in 2007. Indian outsourcers accounted for nearly 80% of the visa petitions approved last year for the top 10 participants in the program. These statistics should set off some alarms in congress that the H-1B visa program is not working as it was intended. Aqccording to data from the U.S. Citizen and Immigration Services, Infosys Technologies and Wipro, two companies based in Bangalore, top the list of visa beneficiaries in 2007, with 4,559 and 2,567 approved visa petitions, respectively. Microsoft and Intel were the only two traditional U.S. tech companies among the top 10. Microsoft received only 959 visa petition approvals, or one fifth as many as Infosys, while Intel got only 369. How is this helping American workers and American businesses? The H-1B work visa program was supposed to be used to bolster the U.S. economy by helping American-owned companies. Under the program, American companies can use the speciality visa to hire foreign software programmers or computer scientists with rare skills in order to encourage innovation and improving competitiveness. Instead, foreign companies such as Infosys and Wipro are using our own government program to undermine the American economy by wiping out American jobs. These foreign-owned companies are bringing low-cost workers into the U.S., training them in the offices of American business clients, and then rotating them back home after a year or two so they can provide low cost, out-sourced tech services that causes American IT workers to lose their jobs. How is this helping American workers and American businesses? Even though approximately 80,000 Americans lost their jobs in the first two months of 2008, incredibly some members in the House of Representatives have introduced legislation to help these big foreign-owned international corporations bring in an increasing number of foreign workers that will put even more Americans out of work. Since its inception, the H-1B Visa program has been rampant with fraud. In the first half of 2006, the Programmer’s Guild, a group representing U.S. worker interests, filed over 300 discrimination complaints against companies who posted “H-1B visa holders only” ads on internet job boards. It’s obvious that these foreign-owned companies are only targeting foreign workers and undermining the system by bypassing the American worker. How is this helping American workers and American businesses? While a bill to reduce illegal immigration (HR-4088) is stalled in Congress with the House leadership refusing to bring it to the floor for a vote, Representative Gabrielle Giffords (D-Arizona) has introduced “The Innovation Employment Act” (HR-5630) that would increase the cap of H-1B visas from 65,000 a year to 130,000 a year. In addition, there would be no cap on H-1B applications for foreign graduate students attending U.S. colleges and studying science, technology and related fields. Currently, there's a 20,000 student-a-year cap on visas for graduate students in all fields. The legislation would eventually increase the H-1B cap to 180,000 and the total number of foreigners admitted under this work and graduate education proposal could reach almost 300,000 a year. To make matters worse for the American IT workers, Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas) has introduced the “Strengthening United States Technology and Innovation Act” (H.R. 5642), which would TRIPLE the current H-1B visa cap to 195,000 in 2008 and 2009 and Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif) wants to make Rep. Smith’s increase permanent. How is this helping American workers and American businesses? There is no real shortage of American information technology workers. It’s just that the large high-tech international companies want to turn these hard earned information technology skills into as cheap a labor commodity as possible at the American workers’ expense. On March 12th Bill Gates appeared before Congress calling for an increase in H-1B visas. Two days later, without soliciting comments from any representatives of American IT workers, Congress introduced two bills that would double or triple the H-1B base cap. Why weren’t the representatives of American IT workers allowed to be heard? Could the average of $25 million dollars a year that members of congress receive in bribes (I mean campaign contributions) from the Computer Equipment and Services Industry, have something to do with this? Here’s some interesting campaign contribution statistics compiled by the Center for Responsible Politics at www.opensecrets.org that shows why congress may be so eager to support the requests of the Computer Equipment and Services Industry over the American IT workers. Here’s how much the high-tech industries have contributed to federal campaigns: 2000 - $38.9 million 2002 - $26.7 million 2004 - $29.0 million 2006 - $18.4 million 2008 - $15.5 million (partial) These two bills (H.R. 4088 and H.R. 5642) will do nothing to curb the fraud in the H-1B visa program and they will have serious consequences for American citizens that are employed in the information technology field. The proposed legislation will displace even more American IT workers and outsource their good paying, high-technology jobs to foreign off-shore companies. We must learn from our mistakes. The current H-1B visa program has not served the best interests of American workers nor American companies. The current program has actually helped foreign competitors, with branch offices in the USA, hire almost no Americans and shift as many American jobs overseas as possible. How is this helping American workers and American businesses? The current H-1B Program, as designed, is detrimental and harmful to the welfare of American workers and American high-tech businesses. It should be abolished. In it’s place and only if it is needed, H-1B type legislation should be written in a way that actually benefits American companies, American workers and American students thinking of embarking on a high-tech career. Any new H-1B Visa legislation should be simple and have the



at 8/9/2008 8:22:58 PM, hoapres said:
These H1B's need to stay in India as there are enough unemployed workers. We do not require their services.



at 1/25/2009 12:41:37 PM, Fuhad said:
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