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Make your network analyzer like a Ridley or Venable isolated type

February 4, 2010

Ridley (made by AP Instruments) and Venable make network analyzers that have isolated inputs and outputs so you can use them to make power supply stability measurements. Last week I got a note from Omicron Labs that mentions their network analyzer, but also featured an isolation transformer that you can use to measure power supply stability with a conventional single-ended network analyzer like my beloved HP3577A:

OMICRON Lab’s new universal injection transformer B-WIT 100 was particularly developed for the stability analysis of switched mode power supplies and control loops of any kind. Due to its special design the B-WIT 100 combines a very wide frequency range (1Hz - 10 MHz) with a 600V CAT II compliant output. Together with OMICRON Lab’s vector network analyzer Bode 100 the B-WIT 100 is used to achieve quick and accurate results on the stability characteristic of DC/DC converters. The 600V CAT II compliant output of the injection transformer enables the analysis of switched mode power supplies with output voltages ranging from a few volts up to mains voltage. The wide frequency range of the B-WIT 100 ensures its usability for slow, low bandwidth control loops as well as to fast, high bandwidth circuits. Due to this feature combination a wide range of measurement applications, which demanded different injection transformers in the past can be now covered with only one device – the B-WIT 100.

Here is a picture of the Omicron Labs isolation transformer,

 Omicron-labs-B-WIT_100

And here is a picture of Engineer Extraordinaire Alan Martin standing in front of his five Venables, in his V-is-for-Venable outfit. I take great pride in that I helped him find one of those $20k instruments at a local auction for 64 dollars. He has since donated one to his Colorado alma mater and gave a few others away to his pals.

 V-for-Venable

Sorry, Alan has no more spare Venables, but he has great things to say about them, as well as the class he took at Ridley about how to properly take gain and phase measurements of a switched-mode power supply. Alan flew to Georgia for that one. On his own dime. You don’t think any boss cares about your training as opposed to firing you and hiring a 24-year-old idiot fresh from college? That’s why you have to read EDN. It is rare the company that will spend money to train you, so we are glad to help you out. Reading EDN back in the 1980s is how I got knowledgeable enough to be a consultant.

Network analyzers, "If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up." Oh, and check out my buddy Jon Dutra’s comments about evaluating power supply stability without a network analyzer should you be short of funds. Jon also had some great board layout suggestions for switching power supplies.

Posted by Paul Rako on February 4, 2010 | Comments (5)

December 6, 2011
In response to: Make your network analyzer like a Ridley or Venable isolated type
alexpcs@ieee.org commented:

once upon the time I made one "isolation transformer" for a power supply guru friend of mine, who used to work at Astek at the time, the bandwidth of the transformer was DC to 500kHz, if there is substantial interest I could resurrect the project


April 3, 2010
In response to: Make your network analyzer like a Ridley or Venable isolated type
Steve Sandler commented:

I hope Alan Martin had his 5 Venables calibrated and tested before using them. Purchasing a Venable for $64 is only a bargain if it is properly calibrated, otherwise it will certainly cost dearly in the end. I wonder how Alan would feel if he were to get a CAT scan on a machine that the doctor picked up at a local garage sale. This is playing with fire. If you are a hobbyist, you don't have much to lose, but I certainly hope that this mentality is not being extended to the commercial world


April 3, 2010
In response to: Make your network analyzer like a Ridley or Venable isolated type
Steve Sandler commented:

The design of a proper transformer for a network analyzer is not an easy thing to do, nor is it inexpensive. At the other extreme, the best injection trasnformer is a Rogowski type, and those cost thousands of dollars. The injection transformer generally requires very wide bandwith. A typical PFC circuit requires measurements down to 1Hz or lower and a typical linear regulator requires measurement to several MHz. Using an improper transformer will likely yield poor results, and as a consultant, I regularly see companies lose enourmous amounts of money due to such ignorance. A Video transformer is meant for video and cannot peform at low frequencies. Part of the reason that injection transformers are so expensive is that it is a very limited market, and so the development cost must be amortized over a small quanitity of units. I assure you that "saving" money on an injection transformer is not a wise move, and statistically, most users will eventually pay it all back and then some, due to errors that go undetected as a result of improper transformer. I also see customers use off the shelf audio transformers, often of the radio shack variety. These pose the same problems. The typical power supply circuit requires measurements well below and well above the audio range or the video range


April 3, 2010
In response to: Make your network analyzer like a Ridley or Venable isolated type
Steve Sandler commented:

The design of a proper transformer for a network analyzer is not an easy thing to do, nor is it inexpensive. At the other extreme, the best injection trasnformer is a Rogowski type, and those cost thousands of dollars. The injection transformer generally requires very wide bandwith. A typical PFC circuit requires measurements down to 1Hz or lower and a typical linear regulator requires measurement to several MHz. Using an improper transformer will likely yield poor results, and as a consultant, I regularly see companies lose enourmous amounts of money due to such ignorance. A Video transformer is meant for video and cannot peform at low frequencies. Part of the reason that injection transformers are so expensive is that it is a very limited market, and so the development cost must be amortized over a small quanitity of units. I assure you that "saving" money on an injection transformer is not a wise move, and statistically, most users will eventually pay it all back and then some, due to errors that go undetected as a result of improper transformer. I also see customers use off the shelf audio transformers, often of the radio shack variety. These pose the same problems. The typical power supply circuit requires measurements well below and well above the audio range or the video range


February 16, 2010
In response to: Make your network analyzer like a Ridley or Venable isolated type
Optoeng commented:

Most all transformers have their low frequency performance limited by their 'volt-second' capability. That translates simply to the simple fact that you must limit volts-per-turn (on any winding) a value declining by a factor of 2 for each octave you go down in frequency. For example, a transformer rated for some input voltage V at 60 Hz will tolerate V/2 at 30 Hz, V/4 at 15 Hz, and so on. At 1 Hz, you can safely apply 2 Vrms to the primary of a 60 Hz 120 VAC power transformer. As you can imagine, DC poses a serious problem for most transformers. At the high frequency end, leakage inductance is the usual limiting factor, although core losses and winding capacitances also contribute to hf rolloff. For this reason, wideband transformers often have thin strip-wound toroidal cores and multi-filar windings.

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