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Tell people $10 wine costs $90, and they think it tastes better

September 10, 2009

CNET has an article about a Cal Tech study that shows the same wine tastes better to people if they think it cost 90 dollars instead of 10 dollars. The lede to the article is “In a study that could make marketing managers and salespeople rub their hands with glee…” No kidding. People selling into the audiophile market have understood this for decades. My pal maintains that our minds and bodies are one inextricably linked system. He says every cell in our brain can affect every cell in our body and vice versa. It is important to understand the results of this study. I think it means that the wine really does taste better; the test subjects truly enjoy it more.

The same goes with the golden-ear audiophiles. When they spend $50,000 on an amplifier or when they paint the edge of the CD green, they really do hear better music. But it is only better to them. Like many psycho-acoustic phenomena, if you don’t believe the $50,000 amplifier is better; double blind studies have shown that nobody, not even the audiophiles, can tell it from a 100 dollar amp.

Now you can see why engineers have such a hard time understanding the audiophile crowd. We take the distortion measurements, we do the jitter analysis, and our brain tells us that is the determining factor, not the cost. Our technical training has made us skeptical of claims that dipping your wall outlet in liquid nitrogen will make your stereo sound better, but as I have blogged, there are thousands of people who pay enormous sums for bogus technology. But that is what we tech types have to understand, the technology is bogus, but the sound is not — the people who pay all this money actually hear better sound through all these crackpot devices.

I have previously drawn a parallel between this audiophile phenomena and Gulf War Syndrome. When veterans of the first gulf war came home, many started developing a range of mysterious symptoms. The VA hospitals could find no disease or physiological cause. And as time went on and the vets talked and read their own stories, a similar spectrum of symptoms kept cropping up amongst them. This is similar to stories of alien abductions. When people started reporting these alien encounters, the aliens were describes in wildly divergent terms. After the story got some legs and people read about it, pretty soon all the aliens conformed to the big-eyed, hairless dwarfs like in the movies. Since people expected to see that, that is what they saw. Some people think they have Morgellons, doctors think it is delusional parasitosis. I’ve known some biker meth freaks so I tend to believe the doctors. Rather than saying “delusional parasitosis” we prefer the descriptive terminology: “he’s spun to the hubs”.

The brain is a powerful thing. When veterans were told that their illness was psychosomatic, they were angry, insisting that it was not all in their heads or imagined. And they were right, doctors pointed out that they really were sick; they really were suffering. And it was the amazing power of their brains to make them sick because they expected to be sick, just like somebody that pays 800 dollars for an RCA cable expects to hear better music.

So try not to get too exasperated with your audio nut pals when they tell you how much they have spent for their systems and how good it sounds. It really does sound better to them. Me, I’ll stick to zip cord for speaker cables and a $99 stereo receiver I got from Fry’s, although I heard a demonstration at ESS the other day that has me thinking about going quadraphonic, their stuff sounded really good to me, but then again, they had the specs to back it up.

Posted by Paul Rako on September 10, 2009 | Comments (6)

September 11, 2009
In response to: Tell people $10 wine costs $90, and they think it tastes better
Repulican commented:

You're not going to start mocking people with an extra chromosome like Al Gore did are you? Or calling people who live in mobile homes trailer trash like Hillary Clinton did? Or follow Democrat Senator Robert Byrds example of calling people "white trash". This dismissiveness of other people by the selfish and self centered in not constructive. My sister's fiance who went off to the first gulf war came back and wasted away within a year. But the medical industry and government didn't admit to knowing any reason for his illness. In case I wasn't clear, he died. Young guy about 21 years old.


September 11, 2009
In response to: Tell people $10 wine costs $90, and they think it tastes better
Victims of marketing commented:

We're all victims of marketing hype. Here in N.C. the democrats pushed for a 1% increase in the sales tax. The media, which is 100% democrat, went on campaign and referred to it as a 1 cent increase. Over and over day after day "1 cent increase". But consider how much you spend in a year. Ten thousand dollars maybe. One PERCENT of ten thousand dollars is a hundred dollars. A hundred dollars not to spend on what I need and want this year and every year for the rest of my life, but a hundred dollars a year for the democrats to give to their political cronies. How I hate lying/marketing.


September 11, 2009
In response to: Tell people $10 wine costs $90, and they think it tastes better
NotHusseinObama commented:

Televison and marketing. Unfortunately the managment at my company has marketing and product support personnel sitting near us engineers. I can tell you that I haven't been nearly as productive here as I have beeen at other companies, hence the response to your blog. The marketing people at ALL companies do the spin you described (and they never shut their mouths). Why else would the auto companies spend billions "restyling" cars every year? Because of marketing hype. If cars could be $100 less expensive and have the same style this year as last, I would be more inclined to buy one. It also would help to keep manufacturing and repair costs down. But the marketing folks know as much about technology as ants know about accounting, so they need something to sell. Oh well, its only money. And money only buys food, heating, air conditioning, and transportation, and who needs those? Oh. We all do.


September 11, 2009
In response to: Tell people $10 wine costs $90, and they think it tastes better
Dywrite commented:

Are all the readers of this column nuts? Stick to the subject in your comments. The writer is trying to make some comparisons to other phenomena we can relate to or make a connection to about how the brain can create sensations that seem/are? very real.


September 10, 2009
In response to: Tell people $10 wine costs $90, and they think it tastes better
Journalist commented:

Before you dis Morgellons patients why don't you go out and actually meet a few. Oh, that would require getting out of mommy's basement and actually doing some research before you sound off on a blog. I forgot.


September 10, 2009
In response to: Tell people $10 wine costs $90, and they think it tastes better
JohnR commented:

I wouldn't disparage Gulf War Veterans too much. Whether or not you believe in some organic basis behind the symptoms of Gulf War Syndrome, these people were (and still are) F***ED over by our country and left high and dry with physical and psychological damage, whether or not it directly corresponds to a particular constellation of symptoms. Now, the same cannot be said for rich, effete audiophiles buying $800 crappy cables with the money they stole from MY RETIREMENT ACCOUNT in that giant, rigged bookie joint known as The American Economy. But all that just goes to the same overwhelming question: WHY AREN'T WE IN THAT BUSINESS??!

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