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Websites offering a Synopsys tool for $20? EDA pirates or legit?

September 5, 2007

Holy smokes, folks, a reader just sent me an email where he has found several web sites that are claiming to sell downloads of a Synopsys tool for $20. That’s right– $20. The reader points out that there are actually 4 websites that seemingly are selling it at that price point or are pointing to the one selling it. I’m not sharing the website or the name of the tool with folks because I don’t know if this is a piracy deal or not, but at least on the surface it appears to be. I’ve made Synopsys aware of it, enquiring about the legitimacy of the offer and whether or not they even know about it. If it isn’t legit, I wonder what they are going to do about it? If it is legit—it’s, well, “a steal” and I’ll tell you what tool it is and direct you toward it.

Perhaps what’s more interesting is the websites offering the tool for $20 come up as front page items when one Google searches a particular keyword. The fact they come up as front page items on Google seemingly indicates the links and sites are hit frequently.

A couple of years ago I wrote a big feature article called “Who are you buying your EDA software from?” (the cover art featuring a lacy pirate arm with hook holding a CD won some business press award for our art wiz Mike O’Leary). At any rate, the article basically looked at the growing concern of piracy in EDA. The reader’s note today seemingly indicates that concern is becoming well-founded.  

A few months before I wrote the feature article, I moderated a panel at a Synopsys Interoperability Forum on the subject of software piracy and its potential impact on EDA. One of the panelists was an FBI agent. It was cool to have a real-live Fed on a panel. At any rate, during his talk, the FBI agent went over increasing piracy issues in the United States and was saying most of the instances of software piracy were small underground businesses churning out mass copies of Microsoft OS, Word, Works, Excel on CDs.

The Agent went on to note that the FBI doesn’t get involved until the damage amount exceeds $100,000 and thus was noting that the FBI doesn’t get involved too often. I then chimed in and informed the agent that $100,000 is likely the conservative median price of IC design software sold in this industry. He looked at me puzzled as if to say “’really?–$100,000 is what people pay for one piece of software?” I then told him P&R software can be upwards of $500,000? One Copy! Gulp?

Then in researching the article, I found it really interesting that several folks noted that one of the saving graces—one of the things that will seemingly prevent EDA from getting hit too hard by Piracy–is that EDA software tends to be extremely buggy.

Imagine if that becomes a marketing excuse, “we intentionally make our software buggy to prevent piracy.” Seemingly, if EDA wants to keep growing at a decent clip, software piracy is an issue they are going to have to pay closer attention to. EDAC appears to be on top of the problem but as we can see, it apparently has a tough row to hoe.

Also, I wonder if some of the responsibility for the piracy issue should fall on search engine sites such as Google? Rockstars such as Metallica drummer Lars Ulrich have raised awareness of music piracy. Perhaps Aart, Mike and Wally need to spike up their hair and go speak to congress?

Posted by Michael Santarini on September 5, 2007 | Comments (5)

September 10, 2007
In response to: Websites offering a Synopsys tool for $20? EDA pirates or legit?
E C commented:

HELLO I DO NOT SELL CRACKS, OR KEYGENS ONLY. I SELL COMPLETE CRACKED PROGRAMS ... THE AMOUNT OF MONEY I ASKED YOU, IS A GOOD AMOUNT. I DO NOT ACCEPT YOUR OFFER OF 35 USD$. PLEASE CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING ... SELECT CAREFULLY, YOUR SOFTWARE PARTNERS ... ESPECIALLY NOT FROM RUSSIA (*) , BELARUS, UKRAINE, CHINA ... (*) WHERE THE RUSSIAN MAFIA DOMINATES. SINCE THE YEAR 1997, I GO TO THE WESTERN UNION, OR MONEYGRAM, TO COLLECT. THEY ARE KEEPING A COMPLETE 'ELECTRONIC FILE' IN THEIR COMPUTERS, ON ME, AND IN ADDITION EACH TIME THEY VERIFY ME, AND THEY MAKE A PHOTOCOPY OF MY ID CARD, AND THEY ATTACH IT, TO THE TRANSACTION DOCUMENTS'. THEY ARE INSTRUCTED BY THE LEGAL AUTHORITIES OF MY COUNTRY TO DO SO. 1. I HAVE MORE THAN 20,000 PROGRAM CDS !, AND I HAVE FORWARDED SOFTWARE, TO MANY COUNTRIES, WORLDWIDE. 2. EVERY WEEK, I COLLECT MORE THAN 5,000 USD$ or EURO, SELLING PROGRAMS, WORLDWIDE. B U T I PAY ALMOST THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY, IN ORDER TO RECEIVE ALL NEW VERSIONS, OF SOFTWARE, TO THE UNDERGROUND DISCTRIBUTION ( HACKERS ) NETWORKS ! I WILL NOT TRY TO GET YOU MONEY, MY PRIMARY TARGET IS TO EXPAND THE DATABASE OF MY CUSTOMERS ( AND F R I E N D S WORLDWIDE ) ( SINCE THE YEAR 1997 ) ! YOU WILL BUY A PROGRAM, ( WHICH, IF ORIGINAL, WILL COST YOU THOUSAND(s) OR USD$ or EURO), AT A SMALL AMOUNT, COMPARED TO THE ORIGINAL PRICE ... Y O U H A V E TO TRUST ME ! IF, YOU DO NOT, EVEN FROM THE BEGINNING OF OUR COOPERATION, THEN, IT IS USELESS TO CONTINUE. THANK YOU


September 10, 2007
In response to: Websites offering a Synopsys tool for $20? EDA pirates or legit?
E C commented:

Interestingly enough. I contacted a software pirate the other day. I was looking for EDA software that I could use for academic purposes, i.e., I'm lazy and don't want to VNC/SSH to my workstation at school, not to mention that the tool administrators are non existent, and never keep anything up to date. I never got anywhere with the pirate. I wasn't willing to drop 100$ for a copy of a popular synthesis tool, and a popular simulator tool. Funny enough, I tried to reason with the pirate (show me yours first), that didn't work out too well. Let me post a copy of an e-mail.


September 5, 2007
In response to: Websites offering a Synopsys tool for $20? EDA pirates or legit?
Michael Santarini commented:

Thanks, that?s a great point. I think it?s great when EDA companies offer student copies and quite frankly it?s smart marketing (and maybe a tax write off?)?seeding the market like Apple computer did when I was in high school. And if anyone else finds free legit EDA software than certainly let me know. That said over the years, I?ve seen various vendors offer ?lite? versions of their tools, limited-time trials versions of their tools as well as student editions. After I filed the post today, I briefly spoke with a pr person at Synopsys she said Synopsys? attorneys are checking on it. Her first impression was the sites are offering pirated stuff because the price is insanely low. Indeed, I went back and looked at the starting price of the tool when it was first released and its starting price was around $80,000 so in this particular case offering it for $20 is either a case of piracy or one heck of a markdown. She also noted that Synopsys probably won?t have anything further to say on the matter?


September 5, 2007
In response to: Websites offering a Synopsys tool for $20? EDA pirates or legit?
NOT AVAILABLE commented:

Michael, You might find it interesting that some software can be downloaded for free from EDA vendors themselves. Mentor Graphics' popular ModelSim simulator has a "student edition" that is available from Mentor Graphics for free. (Google "modelsim student edition" to prove it to yourself.) There is also a Google group support site as well for all the student edition users. (Google "modelsim google" to find that.)


September 5, 2007
In response to: Websites offering a Synopsys tool for $20? EDA pirates or legit?
CYI commented:

The Synopsys software listed on these sites are 2003-2005 versions. That should tell us something about their legitimacy. Some sites are also offering Cadence software. Interestingly, they are not offering Mentor or Magma software. /// It's surprising that the FBI agent had never heard of a $100,000 software package. There must be enterprise server products from companies such as IBM and Oracle that cost that much or more.

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