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Blu-ray: What Do I Weigh When 'Online Competition' I Say?

January 30, 2009

I had to laugh, in reading the reader feedback to my most recent Blu-ray writeup two Mondays back, to see that one poster began his discourse with the words:

I think all of us techies are forgetting again…

I laughed because I had just been having that very same thought, albeit on a somewhat unrelated aspect of the topic. Judging from the comments I’ve received over the past few years, many of you are confused at why I keep mentioning high-resolution movies on plastic discs (i.e. Blu-ray and, until around this time last year, HD DVD) and movie downloads over the Internet in the same breath. Let me try to explain again, and maybe this time it’ll make sense.

I’ve said any number of times over the years that resolution interpolation is an inferior substitute to ‘the real thing’. Therefore, in an absolute sense and with all other factors being equal, I agree with all the techies who’ve written in that a 720- or 1080-line native resolution Blu-ray version of a movie is of course superior to the upscaled 480-line red-laser DVD or downloaded alternative. The problem, of course, lies within those sticky words with all other factors being equal. Consider, for example:

  • Depending on your viewing distance from the display, the size of the display, the ambient lighting conditions, the specific display technology being observed, and other display characteristics, your eyes may not be able to discern the increased resolution potential of Blu-ray versus DVD or a equivalent-resolution downloaded presentation of a movie.
  • As no less an expert on technology for the masses as my barber remarked earlier this week, "a high quality up-scaled DVD [editor note: or downloaded standard-def movie] looks pretty darn good even on a big screen".
  • An older movie captured on inferior film stock (or with film stock that’s subsequently been degraded by the ravages of time), and/or with inferior lenses and other camera equipment, will show little to no benefit on Blu-ray versus with a standard-definition alternative. In fact, arguably, a high-resolution medium might make the resultant presentation look worse by magnifying the flaws. Case in point (IMHO): Close Encounters Of The Third Kind. Case in point (so I’ve heard): porn.
  • Resolution is only one of several important metrics of image quality. The particular lossy video compression codec employed, along with the compression ratio selected and the particular parameters leveraged (or not) by the compression algorithm, all have an equivalent or greater impact on the perceived quality of the end result. I’m reminded, for example, of the roundly criticized first-edition Blu-ray pressing of the trophy title The Fifth Element, both in an absolutely sense and relative to the Superbit standard-definition pressing of the same title on red laser DVD.
  • In these troubled economic times, even a $200 (or, as I recently saw, $100) Blu-ray player is a tough pill to swallow for a household that already owns one or several DVD players.
  • Similarly, a $10 (or in recent days, less…gee, wonder why?) per-disc Blu-ray price increment is a similarly tough pill to swallow when considering a Blu-ray-vs-DVD purchase on a new title, and it’ll certainly squelch any desire to repurchase in high-def titles that a consumer already owns on DVD.

I’d like to focus in particular on those last two bullet points, because they’re the crux of my motivation in simultaneously mentioning both Blu-ray and downloadable media in past writeups. Consumers have a non-unlimited fiscal budget allocated to home entertainment, although it’s not terribly surprising that recent-times ‘cocooning’ at home is causing that percentage of the total household budget to slightly increase on average. $200 for a new Blu-ray player could alternatively finance (I’m estimating here, based on comparative pricing I’ve seen…your mileage may be slightly different) 40 new-release DVD rentals at a local brick-and-mortar merchant or 50 new-release rental downloads…or for that matter, a couple of visits to the grocery story. Each incremental $10 paid for a Blu-ray disc versus its DVD counterpart could alternatively pay for a second DVD or a second standard-definition online title purchase…or a meal for two at a fast food restaurant.

Consumers also have a non-unlimited ‘eyeballs time’ budget allocated to entertainment. As such, anyone doubting that online streaming is eating into physical disc viewing should heed the words of Netflix CEO Reed Hastings, who admitted in the company’s quarterly earnings call earlier this week that he’s seeing a ’substitution effect’ among subscribers. My friends down the street are probably going to throttle back the ‘number of discs at a time’ associated with their Netflix subscription to save a few bucks each month, now that I’ve got them rocking and rolling with Netflix Watch Instantly on the Xbox 360. So are my friends "down the hill" with their Roku Netflix Player (by the way, also check out Engadget’s recent evaluation of various Netflix Watch Instantly streaming options).

Personally, I suspect Netflix has known all along that cannibalization was going to occur, thereby leading to my admitted admiration for the company and its management. Rare among publicly traded firms in particular, Netflix seems willing to trade off some degree of short-term profitability in order to make the necessary long-term infrastructure investments to survive (or perhaps more accurately, thrive in) the inevitable transition from physical media to downloads. Don’t be distracted by the fact that Neflix’s Watch Instantly library currently contains only a scant assortment of recently released blockbusters; that’s a royalty-induced economics tradeoff. There’s no fundamental reason why Netflix can’t deliver current Hollywood hits, too. Mark my words; it’ll happen, and sooner versus later.

Blu-ray won’t outright fail, in the same way that DVD-Audio and SACD weren’t outright failures. Heck, VHS is still alive and kicking…well, twitching (laserdisc, on the other hand…). But as was the case with both DVD-Audio and SACD versus the Red Book Audio CD predecessor, I continue to confidently believe that Blu-ray will ultimately achieve only a small fraction of the success which its red laser DVD predecessor accomplished. I also believe (not that consumers seem to give a damn) that as was the case with DVD-Audio and SACD, at the end of the day nobody (with the possible exception of Sony) is going to end up turning a profit on Blu-ray. A variety of factors will combine to create these conclusions. And online downloads are indeed one key reason.

Agree or disagree? My protective asbestos underwear is donned; have at it. And hey…have a happy weekend.

p.s…I hate to say I told you so, but Blu-ray-supportive PlayStation 3 sales are on a decline.

Posted by Brian Dipert on January 30, 2009 | Comments (10)

February 12, 2009
In response to: Blu-ray: What Do I Weigh When 'Online Competition' I Say?
Brian Dipert commented:

Dear JimOm, you may need a third-party program like Powerstrip in order to define custom resolutions, especially with an OEM like Sony that tends to block you from installing generic drivers off ATI or Nvidia's website. With that said, do make sure you have the latest-available graphics driver installed. Yes, the Roku unit is 720p-max and is currently restricted to Netflix material, although Amazon is in beta and other enhancements are planned. Check out SageTV's HD Theater, or an Xbox 360.


February 12, 2009
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JimOM commented:

Thanks for the response MikeN. My Sony computer will display on the HDTV when I use the DVI to HDMI cable, at a lower resolution than 1920x1080. It is interesting that you say that most PCs now support 1920x1080, because I have a new Dell XPS whiz-bang gaming desktop, and it does not support 1920x1080, so I assumed that I could only get this capability thru aftermarket video cards. Of course, I could buy something newer, but you know how it is, I have this nice Sony Vaio that is already in the living room and it is very quiet in operation, so it would have been nice if I could modify it for 1080i. From my research on the internet it looks like others have had trouble with aftermarket graphics cards in Sony computers. As usual Sony has to be different. Actually my goal is not to display downloaded movies, it is to be able to display the video from my new hi-def camcorder. I would like to be able to display my edited home video in true 1080i without having to burn it to Blu-ray discs which are still too expensive. I am considering the Popcorn Hour A110 media streamer, it looks like about the most inexpensive and best solution for what I want to do. Brian, I looked at the Roku, but it is only 720p and I don''''t know if it will play my own video files.


February 11, 2009
In response to: Blu-ray: What Do I Weigh When 'Online Competition' I Say?
MikeN commented:

Dear JimOM - I think your problems revolve equally around your computer (Sony Vaio) and its age (2004). With a new HP laptop, there are two choices: VGA cable out the back to the TV or HDMI cable out the side to the TV. Both are dirt simple. Also, most middle-of-the-road laptops and PCs today support 1920x1080 resolution natively. I agree that it isn't cost effective to buy a new computer just for that, but if you have a newer computer, this is a lot simpler. My Sharp 52" HDTV also has PC resolution options lower than 1920x1080. Could your Sony support a lower resolution that the TV also supports?


February 11, 2009
In response to: Blu-ray: What Do I Weigh When 'Online Competition' I Say?
Brian Dipert commented:

Dear Fredo, upconverted red laser DVD is only supported via analog VGA and HDCP-inclusive digital video connections such as DVI, HDMI and DisplayPort. Unless you're using VGA, the signal coming out of your DVD player is 480p and any upconversion from there is being done by the display itself. Conversely, until Blu-ray content providers decide to start activating the Image Constraint Token (I'm not aware that anyone's had the guts to do this yet), you can view the material at its native resolution even over an analog component video link.


February 11, 2009
In response to: Blu-ray: What Do I Weigh When 'Online Competition' I Say?
Jeremy commented:

JimOM - Not sure what kind of engineer you are but I''m glad you don''t work for my company...


February 4, 2009
In response to: Blu-ray: What Do I Weigh When 'Online Competition' I Say?
Brian Dipert commented:

Dear JimOM, thanks everso for being such a good sport! By the way, the Roku Netflix Player costs $99.99...it streams standard- and high-def Netflix right now, and I'm currently a beta tester for the coming-soon Amazon Unbox support...(more on that soon!)


February 3, 2009
In response to: Blu-ray: What Do I Weigh When 'Online Competition' I Say?
Oldie commented:

BD is competing with DVD. Both are competing with download. Is BD quality enough to win over DVD? Maybe not - after all DVD replaced VHS, not Betamax...


January 31, 2009
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Brian Dipert commented:

Dear Zahon, greetings to a fellow first-generation 60GB PS3 owner! I'm a bit baffled at your feedback, however. Both DVD and Blu-ray are also DRM-inclusive, although questionable-legality tools are available to surmount in both cases (DeCSS and its descendants, and Slysoft's AnyDVD HD). And are you aware that you can buy an online movie from the Sony Store, download it to your PS3's HDD, and enjoy it as long as the HDD lives? You can even re-download it later to a different unit. Similarly, I can buy an online movie from Amazon, and stream it 'forever' from their servers to my Roku Player (currently in beta...did this just last night), as well as download a copy to a computer or TiVo. Yes, these aren't physical discs that you can hold in your hands. But as the music industry trends have shown, most consumers have gotten beyond that particular hangup.


January 31, 2009
In response to: Blu-ray: What Do I Weigh When 'Online Competition' I Say?
Brian Dipert commented:

Dear bigRoN, thanks as always for writing. I hope you realize that you (and I...at least as long as I remain employed!) are in the minority. Most (and an increasing number, as this economic malaise deepens) folks can't afford 'both'. And frankly, with that said, I still will usually choose up-scaled standard-def content over high-def, both with rental downloads (to save a buck or two, and to speed time-to-movie-start, since I don't have your SureWest fiber link!) and physical disk rentals (I'm so cheap I'm not even willing to pay $1 per month extra for the Blu-ray upgrade on my Netflix account)


January 31, 2009
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Zanoh commented:

Yes bigRon, I am referring to the 60 gb PS3 (only one worth getting in my opinion). As for you, Mr. Dipert, I hear both sides of the story all the time. Yes everyone that isn''t a fan of Blu-Ray will say internet is the way to go, and then of course people who are full blu-ray will say Blu all the way. The point I am driving at is that Internet Downloads is not the be all and end all of everything. The reasons are quite simple... 1.) Availability - Now we can go through all the Oh well you have tons to choose from so said company etc, but let''s be honest. YOU CAN ONLY RENT THESE MOVIES. Studios and Movie makers have DRMED these internet companies like Netflix to heck to the point in where we can''t own these movies to watch on say a big screen. That''s fine if we want to just take a quick view at movies we are thinking of purchasing, but I really do not see a trend in owning all my movies on a laptop or computer... Movies were meant to be watched on a TV and with surround sound at best. 2. Internet - The biggest factor is that movies are being fed through an internet pipeline. SO that means both Video and Audio clarity has been compromised for me to watch it. No joke. I played Wall-E on DVD, Blu-Ray and Internet. While the Internet version was almost on par with the DVD format. It looked terrible compared to the Blu-Ray version. A second thing to consider would be the fact that the stream also depends on your internet connection. You need a high speed internet connection for these type of things. 56 K users (And there are 56 k users) are stuck in the dark. So their option is DVD or Blu-Ray. and 3. HD...The internet only offers 720p HD. That even in itself it cannot tout because video and audio is still compromised. And if I had to compare, Wall-E is still a good movie to compare. Yes we can say distance from so said HDTV, but really even far away from my bed I can see the image at times having one of those pixilated stuff...hell even my upscaled DVDs do not do that (Thank god for the 60gb PS3.) Now for the Blu-Ray side, my gripes on it 1. The discs are expensive. PERIOD. I am able to get some cheap deals on Amazon.com and Ebay so rather than pay 30+ for a High def disc, I get it from 10-27 dollars. Which is very good. So this one is a mixed bag. 2. You need an HDTV - Seriously I believe the HD thing is a bit too pricey and over rated by some techno phobes so I can see where you are coming from, but if there is one thing you would have to agree, At least I can see a much worthy difference and a reason to upgrade to HD, rather than the idiocy Hollywood is trying to spout known as "3D". We all know where that fad went before...shame we can''t learn from that mistake... and 3. - DVDs. People say why do we need it when DVD is just as good. See to me I go by my old VHS-DVD logic. If you have the VHS version, no need for the DVD version but eventually when the VHS version becomes obsolete, you get the DVD version. In fact I still keep my DVDs all while building a Blu-Ray library of movies I do not have. If the holly wood big wigs make something for DVD and not blu-ray, I just get the DVD. So all in all I use both with good reason. Netflix I use to sample a movie I didn''t watch in the theatre to see if I like it. If I do like it, I see if a Blu-ray and DVD version is available. If both are available, I get the Blu-Ray version. If not, I just get the DVD. See? We all go home happy.

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