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Apple TV: The Higher-Bandwidth HD Edition

March 27, 2008

Following up on my 3+ weeks-back experiment, last night I finally found a high-def flick from the iTunes Store worth of a $5 rental test. It was The Darjeeling Limited (given my long-standing love of India-influenced Nepal, are you surprised?), and I started the download at 7:39 PM. Here are some stats to refresh your memory of my prior standard-def test over my recently bandwidth-upgraded 2.5 Mbps downstream DSL connection:

  • The total runtime of Saved! was 1 hour, 32 minutes, and 22 seconds.
  • Each percent-downloaded ‘tick’ took ~35 seconds
  • Apple TV reported the movie as ‘ready to play’, thanks to the service’s progressive download capabilities, at the 2.5%-downloaded mark, or said another way, less than 2 minutes after I concluded the rental transaction and the download began.

Last night’s high-def experience was quite different, much more so than I would have predicted in advance. To wit, I didn’t realize just how much bigger the high-def files served by the iTunes Store were, versus their standard-def alternatives.

  • The total runtime of The Darjeeling Limited, as reported by the online store description, is ~91 minutes.
  • Each percentage-downloaded ‘tick’ took ~1 minute, 35 seconds (i.e. roughly 3x longer than the standard-def predecessor), and therefore
  • Apple TV reported the movie as ‘ready to play’ at the 43%-downloaded mark i.e. 68 minutes after I concluded the rental transaction and the download began.

Not exactly instant gratification, was it? In fact, I haven’t yet started viewing the movie; by the time I got the ‘ready to play’ notification, it was almost 9PM, and I didn’t want to stay up for another 1.5 hours. I’ll watch it tonight and let you know if I encounter anything odd. However, given the data above, I can extrapolate some other statistics that you might find interesting:

  • Assuming my DSL line’s 2.5 Mbps downstream potential held constant through the entire download cycle, the movie was completely stored on my Apple TV’s HDD after 2 hours, 38 minutes and 20 seconds (or, said another way, ~0.6x real-time). Compare this to the 58-minute (~1.6x real-time) total-download time for standard-def Saved!, and the high-def delay penalty (along with the reason for the extended progressive-download latency) will be quickly apparent.
  • The Darjeeling Limited’s total file size is, if I’ve done the math right, approximately 3 GBytes (i.e. roughly 3x the size of the standard-def predecessor). Keep in mind, too, that each anamorphic-encoded high-def video frame is 1280×534 (683,520 total) pixels in resolution since the film employs a 2.35:1 aspect ratio, versus 854×480 (409,920 total) per-frame pixels for the standard-definition 16:9 aspect ratio Saved!, whose total file size I’d earlier estimated as ~1.1 GBytes. Considering the aspect ratio, therefore per-frame resolution, differences between the two films, I’m unable to draw any definitive conclusions regarding standard-vs-high def compression efficiency of the H.264 (aka MPEG-4 AVC, aka MPEG-4 Part 10) video codec that Apple employs.
  • I also estimate the average playback bitrate for The Darjeeling Limited to be ~4.4 Mbps. Compare this to the earlier ~1.6 Mbps average playback bitrate estimate for Saved! Keep in mind, however, that I strongly suspect (though I don’t know for sure) Apple’s using VBR (variable bitrate) encoding for its iTunes Store-served rental and purchased video content, in order to maximize video quality across a range of content compression complexity. The playback bitrate could therefore wildly fluctuate on a frame-by-frame basis, which greatly complicates progressive-download calculations and makes streaming near impossible (leading me to also suspect that the movie previews are constant bitrate, i.e. CBR, encoded).

I’m half-tempted, after watching the movie tonight, to spend an incremental $3.99 on the standard-definition version of the film, in order to provide a more apples-to-apples comparison. Stay tuned for a follow-up report if I decide to drop the incremental cash…

Posted by Brian Dipert on March 27, 2008 | Comments (4)

December 30, 2008
In response to: Apple TV: The Higher-Bandwidth HD Edition
Matt commented:

I just downloaded my first ATV movie--Forgetting Sarah Marshall--in HD. It took about 30 minutes before it said it was ready to view. However, since we hit the 40'''''''' mark of the movie, it keeps pausing to download. It''''''''s really annoying as it''''''''s now pausing about every 5 minutes. I have Comcast cable connected to a LinkSys wireless G router. Not sure how to resolve this, as I don''''''''t want to have to plan ahead 2 hrs to watch an HD movie!


December 8, 2008
In response to: Apple TV: The Higher-Bandwidth HD Edition
adam commented:

Yes, thanks. I just got Apple TV and rented one movie over the weekend - A Christmas Story. It claimed to be in HD but clearly must've been reformatted for HD purposes since it is so old. It took about 9 minutes until Apple told me it was ready to watch. I have basic cable modem with a Linksys Wireless G router. I then went out today and purchased a Belkin Wireless N router. Then I downloaded the movie Mongol, a recent release, in HD. It took about an hour until it was ready to view. I was very frustrated until it occurred to me that the Mongol movie was probably a true HD version while the xmas movie was not. Does this make sense?!


June 16, 2008
In response to: Apple TV: The Higher-Bandwidth HD Edition
Brian Dipert commented:

Dear Ben, my pleasure. ;-) Kudos for the rare, appreciated, non-flamethrower-inclusive comment.


June 16, 2008
In response to: Apple TV: The Higher-Bandwidth HD Edition
Ben commented:

At the risk of being the only person not looking to start something (along with being a few months too late), this was the exact article I was looking for. While I may have an 8/1 cable line here, my ATV will be a Father Day present where the intrernet is 3/512ish. Verizon DSL. I couldn't tell from Apple's page it the delay would be closer to 1 minute or 6 hours but now I know that they should expect to wait about an hour for an HD movie to start. Thanks for putting in the time to do the research.

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