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Thin-Air ATSC (And NTSC) A Selective Boost Brings Big Bird Home To Roost

March 2, 2009

The latest in an ongoing series

I realize that just last Friday I said:

I suspect I won’t have much to share with all of you on this topic over the next few months.

Note however my careful selection of the intentionally nebulous word ‘much’. ;-) As such, I felt compelled to respond to reader Dave Telling, who earlier this morning wrote:

I also found (as Brian did) that boosters don’t work for me - I actually LOST stations whenever I tried a booster.

Well, Dave, that depends. As of late last week, I was getting a weather-degraded signal from KOLO’s Peavine Mountain line-of-sight low-power translator on UHF channel 24, along with a completely weather-clobbered channel 13 transmission from KTVN’s double-edge-diffracted signal originating on Slide Mountain. The latter was the more baffling of the two; being VHF, it should have been less affected by airborne precipitation than its UHF counterparts, and KRNV at VHF channel 7 and broadcasting from the exact same tower as KTVN was seemingly unaffected by the weather.

Last night, just in time for another 60 Minutes recording attempt, KTVN again went on the blink. This reception failure was coincident with the accumulation on my VHF antenna of extremely wet and large snowflakes, which had been flying through the air all day but which (until a few hours earlier) the ambient climate had encouraged to melt upon landing. This morning’s warmer temperatures had cleared off the antenna, and KTVN was back. A few hours later, the air chilled, my AntennaCraft’s Y5-7-13 once again got coated, and KTVN again got clobbered.

I went outside, knocked the snow off the antenna, and KTVN’s ATSC reception was again resurrected. A half hour later, the acccumulated snow was back, and the signal was once again gone. I think I’ve found my culprit ;-) It’s a mystery to me why two VHF transmissions, coming from the exact same tower, can be affected so differently by a ‘Sierra Cement’-encrusted antenna. Then again, for reasons unknown, KTVN has always had a notably weaker received signal than KRNV. Combine this fact with the inherently sketchy double-edge diffracted nature of the transmission, toss in potential added attenuation caused by the coax wiring in my home, and I suppose that some wet snow on the antenna might be enough to push KTVN’s signal ‘over the cliff’.

I should note, to Dave Telling’s comments above, that my difficulties with receiving KTVN exist in spite of the fact that as of yesterday morning, I’m once again using an amplifier. I’d told you last week that I’d had good reception success when activating the integrated ‘Signal Booster’ feature of Pinnacle’s PCTV HD mini Stick. However, other problems with that particular unit compelled me to quit using it on my Media Center system. Instead, I decided to attempt to mimic the feature via an external signal booster. Last August, I tried using a Motorola unit, but its broadband amplification nature resulted in over-boost (and subsequent reception loss) of KRNV. This time, I instead decided to revisit the first amplifier I tried, the Antennas Direct CPA 19, this time installing it inside the house at the ATSC receiver, where it could both boost over-the-air transmissions and counteract any incremental signal degradation caused by in-house wiring.

The CPA 19 focuses primary attention on the UHF spectrum, thereby explaining why it didn’t improve KTVN’s transmission, but thereby also preventing it from overloading KRNV’s signal. Happily, the CPA 19 made a notable improvement in my reception of KOLO’s translator on UHF channel 24, which is now robust even in poor weather conditions. And I can now even get PBS affiliate KNPB (PBS=Sesame Street=Big Bird…get it?). Not the primary channel 15 signal originating north of Reno, mind you. I’m now receiving a Peavine Mountain translator on channel 47, whose presence I never would have known about save for the informative software bundled with the Pinnacle unit.

Take a look at KNPB’s Wikipedia page. Better yet, take a look at the official list of translators on KNPB’s website. See any mention of a translator on channel 47? Me either, which is why I triple-confirmed the broadcast frequency data that Pinnacle’s TVCenter Pro software was feeding me. Then I hacked into the Windows Vista Media Center program guide information to override the default KNPB physical channel details, crossed my fingers, and launched Media Center. Lo and behold, I had a comparable-quality presentation to the one I was getting from KOLO’s translator, one that (being UHF) was also improved by the Antennas Direct CPA 19.

Dear KNPB, please update your translator information. For that matter, you might want to strip out all mention of analog television from your website, since you stopped broadcasting NTSC two weeks ago. Grrr…

Posted by Brian Dipert on March 2, 2009 | Comments (7)

February 5, 2010
In response to: Thin-Air ATSC (And NTSC) A Selective Boost Brings Big Bird Home To Roost
Install Software commented:

Another great post. Thanks for the tips and help. Everyone, bookmark this site.


March 4, 2009
In response to: Thin-Air ATSC (And NTSC) A Selective Boost Brings Big Bird Home To Roost
Brian Dipert commented:

Dear Dave Telling, I didn't experience any signal loss yesterday either. Big difference; yesterday's snow was dry powder, the earlier stuff was wet 'Sierra Cement'. Speaking of which, I need to go shovel...as of 6PM yesterday I'd gotten about 1.5 feet in this latest storm, and I got another 1.5 feet overnight!


March 4, 2009
In response to: Thin-Air ATSC (And NTSC) A Selective Boost Brings Big Bird Home To Roost
Dave Telling commented:

Brian, We had some snow down here last night, and I did not see any significant signal degradation on an of the ATSC OTA channels. The only channel that had a problem was the (analog)translator for TBN on channel 19. It kept showing a "lost signal" message (I'm assuming it's a satellite-based receiver). Since the (first) digital changeover, I'm getting good reception on all the available channels, using the Hauppague tuner and rooftop Radio Shack LP antenna. I'm thinking that we haven't had enough snow accumulation down here to really affect the reception. I really wish that I could get the internal Avermedia M780 to work as well, but that seems to be a lost cause at this point. Then, if Microsoft could be convinced to add an on-air scan function to MCE, life would be wonderful!


March 4, 2009
In response to: Thin-Air ATSC (And NTSC) A Selective Boost Brings Big Bird Home To Roost
Larry M commented:

Brian, Jeremy: Data transfer over a DTV sub-channel has been done commercially. My first DTV card, from now-defunct AccessDTV, came with software which captured a low-rate data stream that came along with the broadcast. It was a robust scheme that tolerated changing channels or turing the PC/TV off, but the download wouldn't complete without a certain amount of time spent dwelling on the providing channel (the motiviation for the broadcaster to provide the content). I downloaded a few toyish games from WRAL-TV, the first HDTV station in the country, probably back in 2000. I am not aware that anyone is using this scheme now, but they are, of course, sending the Program Guide in digital format, as well as updating the receiver's clock.


March 3, 2009
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Jeremy Lansman commented:

Brian. Too bad. TV is not TV. It is bits flying throught the air. The TV business model is doomed, but flying bits are not. Too bad for me that TV people think they are in the TV business. Years ago, when I went to the NAB convention to learn about digital TV, I saw those quarter million dollar digital TV transmitters on the Las Vegas floor and thought, "those things are bit blasters, not TV." It is almost too late to change now.


March 3, 2009
In response to: Thin-Air ATSC (And NTSC) A Selective Boost Brings Big Bird Home To Roost
Brian Dipert commented:

Dear Jeremy Lansman, Windows Media Center transcodes the video to a proprietary MPEG-2-based wrapper format called DVR-MS (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVR-MS) during the capture process. Among other things, this lets you make recording quality-vs-MBytes consumed tradeoffs for various shows.


March 3, 2009
In response to: Thin-Air ATSC (And NTSC) A Selective Boost Brings Big Bird Home To Roost
Jeremy Lansman commented:

Can that thing write the transport stream to hard disk? I just wondered, as I have been thinking (yes, my thinking ability may be at a very slow neuronal cycle rate, but I can still get one cycle per second) that if there are a lot of these DTV computer adapter cards it would take very little more to use the digital channels for something other than TV. Just a downloadable chunk of software that could comb the file for whatever. Anything. Anything digital. it is no longer TV. Right? So.... do these things write the full transport stream to hard drive? Download TSReader and find out. Let me know. Pretty please?

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