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A HD VUDU Download: How Hefty Is The Payload?

May 14, 2008

Continued from ‘HD VUDU: Delay-Induced Doo-Doo‘…

Quick benchmarks enabled me to discard the second and third contenders; AT&T’s service was running fine, as was my network. Regarding candidates 1 and 4, check out the ‘current bandwidth usage’ report in the lower left quadrant of this snapshot:

When VUDU had earlier classified my service quality as ‘2 Mbps’, I assumed that this was an intentionally tiered simplification of reality, and that the box would pull the full 2.4 Mbps of WAN bandwidth potential if my router and companion QoS processor enabled it to do so. But based on the statistics above, which held steady for over a half hour, this doesn’t seem to be the case…when VUDU says it’s pulling 2 Mbps, it’s pulling exactly 2 Mbps.

I realize, as I type these words, the potentially apparent irony of my complaint. Wasn’t I just grumbling two days ago about VUDU’s over-enthusiastic bandwidth conquest? Well, yes, but the scenario’s quite different this time.

  • The root of my issue back then was that the company employed P2P ‘by subterfuge, in an overly aggressive and unpredictable manner, and without providing any meaningful means (such as the upstream bandwidth throttle settings found in Bittorrent clients) by which VUDU’s consumers can tone down the service’s bandwidth grabs.’ Conversely, I’d argue that when a consumer presses ‘rent’ (or for that matter, ‘purchase’), it’s reasonable to expect that he or she should know (or will quickly learn) and accept that web browsing and other LAN- and WAN-tapping functions are going to subsequently slow down for a while, and
  • Last time, I focused on unannounced, uncontrollable and unpredictable upstream bandwidth usage. This time, conversely, downstream data flow dominates.

What about the last two potential progressive-download throttles in my above list? Whereas The Darjeeling Limited has a 91 minute listed runtime in IMDB’s database, The Bourne Utimatum stretches to 115 minutes. But still…only 28% downloaded after a 1 hour and 40 minute delay? Let’s see if we can figure out the encoded film file size. Extrapolating the already-provided data, we can estimate that the download completed ~357 minutes (i.e 5 hours, 57 minutes) after I pressed ‘rent’…and indeed, judging from the absence of abundant LAN and DSL activity, it had finished by the time I woke up this morning.

At a 2 Mbps download speed, that means that the total file size is ~5.38 GBytes (please check my math, people!). And dividing that formidable number by the 115 minute film runtime results in an encoded bitrate of just over 6.2 Mbps…indeed much higher than my earlier 4.4 Mbps estimate for HD Apple TV material. Will this Apple-vs-VUDU contrast hold across other titles, or did VUDU intentionally encode the Bourne films at a higher bitrate than other material in its library, thereby creating ‘trophy’ content? And bitrate differences aside, we already know that Apple’s leveraging H.264 (aka MPEG-4 AVC, aka MPEG-4 JVT, aka MPEG-4 Part 10); what video codec is VUDU employing?

The entirety of my information resides in a brief ‘MPEG-4′ mention (which could mean an almost infinite variety of things!) in the reviewer’s guide. I suspect (and teardown analysis concurs) that VUDU is tapping into the same H.264 infrastructure as Apple, in order to leverage the industry’s high volume cost efficiencies driven by commoditization, but I can’t say for sure until VUDU tells me more (and right now the company isn’t talking). Let me know your theories in the comments, please.

Posted by Brian Dipert on May 14, 2008 | Comments (6)

December 6, 2011
In response to: A HD VUDU Download: How Hefty Is The Payload?
Mimosa commented:

One or two to rememebr, that is.


May 16, 2008
In response to: A HD VUDU Download: How Hefty Is The Payload?
MrGiro commented:

I am really surprised that you are taking such a critical view of the Vudu. I own two and have purchased a least half a dozen as gifts. Everyone I know who has had experience with it is in love with the product. As far as these latency issues that you are having, I have had no such experience with a standard cable internet service. My head-to-head comparison of the Apple product is that, while intriguing, is not as developed in terms of content or interface yet. If and when that changes, I will happily buy the AppleTV. Given Apple?s excellent track record of creating thoughtful, easy to use products, I think it is great that they are working on this technology. Vudu is excellent and Apple has an equally good track record for delivering paradigm changing products. No matter who ultimately dominates, the consumer is the real winner.


May 16, 2008
In response to: A HD VUDU Download: How Hefty Is The Payload?
Brian Dipert commented:

Dear Nded, thanks for providing additional info on The Bourne Ultimatum (and the other Bourne movies as well? Your comments aren't clear). I wasn't aware of this (and arguably, shouldn't need to comb through the user forums in order to obtain it). I suspect (as I've already documented as suspecting), from what you've said, that it's/they're encoded at a higher bitrate than the other HD titles. I've just begun the download of Sweeney Todd, and I'll check in around an hour to see if it's ready to play yet (if so thereby mimicking my prior Apple TV HD experience).


May 14, 2008
In response to: A HD VUDU Download: How Hefty Is The Payload?
Brian Dipert commented:

Dear len nam, I fully read the directions before reviewing. Respectfully, read the writeup before commenting. The focus of this post was the Apple TV-vs-VUDU experience with HD content, and possible reasons for it. Bottom line, a) VUDU doesn't use all of the available downstream bandwidth and b) encodes its HD content at a higher bitrate than does Apple. The latter isn't 'bad' or 'good', it just 'is'. And regarding upstream bandwith usage, make sure you write me back after you have an annoying VoIP experience or few, ok?


May 14, 2008
In response to: A HD VUDU Download: How Hefty Is The Payload?
len nam commented:

I agree with the person above. Vudu works better than anything else, and if its upload uses some of my bandwidth, I really don't notice it in the real world and don't care. I won't say its carping, but it just doesn't matter. Also, if you're testing something that requires 3 for standard and 5 for HD, you are naturally going to have troubles and report a poor result. I got the bandwidth Vudu asked me to have before I bought it, and the Vudu box performs without a hitch. (Respectfully, read the directions before reviewing.)


May 14, 2008
In response to: A HD VUDU Download: How Hefty Is The Payload?
carolsky9 commented:

Also, fiberoptic stuff is coming to my area in 3 months. Extra bandwidth will be much cheaper as i know from people across town. I am crazy in love with Vudu. It's worth the extra $6 a month for increased broadband. It's snap-easy to navigate, their remote is unique and super, and their filter so you can reduce to menus only with 4 or 5+ critic rated films means you never have to see the lousy movies even by mistake. I don't know that much about the technical side, but they've put out a really great techie product from the consumer's side. Carole

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