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Intel Vs AMD: The Final Chapter Entry?

November 3, 2008

I spent a substantial chunk of last weekend building up PCs, installing operating systems, driver suites and applications on them, and benchmarking them. Given today’s released pricing and initial testing results on Intel’s Core i7 (aka ‘Nehalem’) CPUs, you might think you know what hardware I was playing with. Alas, you’d be mistaken…although I do have Nehalem-based system components in hand, and although I do plan to test them soon, the first draft of my January 8, 2009 cover story is due on the 17th of this month, and I’ll be at Microsoft’s Windows Hardware Engineering Conference beginning tomorrow through the end of this week.

As such, given that my 1/8/09 cover story will be a hands-on performance and power consumption test of the latest ‘value’ processors from AMD, Intel and Via Technologies, I spent my time firing up evaluation boards for Intel’s single- and dual-core Atom, as well as my Atom-fueled netbook, along with a Via C7-based ARTiGO kit (my Via Nano-based mini-ITX board is due to arrive on Friday, when I return from WinHEC). It’s not yet totally clear to me what AMD’s got planned for this particular market segment (I’m betting on a litho-shrunk K7), or if the company will be able to get me relevant hardware in time for print (or for that matter, online addendum) treatment.

Speaking of AMD and litho shrinks, the 45 nm Shanghai successor to the company’s flawed Barcelona server CPU is set to launch sometime before year end (with a derived Phenom descendant for desktops inevitably to follow), so say the abundant rumors and reseller price lists. Given AMD’s ongoing fiscal crisis and its impacts on headcount and other project parameters, I expect Shanghai to be an evolutionary baby step as compared to the prior Opteron-to-Barcelona leap…a near-identical per-core design, coupled with substantially larger amounts of core-shared L3 cache (with no further TLB flaws, one would hope) befitting the higher 45 nm transistor budget, and tweaked on-chip memory controllers that support the latest-and-greatest DDR3 SDRAM flavors.

Conversely, competitor Intel is in revolution mode, at least from the perspective of its own product line…many of the new Core i7 features are conceptually reminiscent of capabilities that AMD’s offered for many years. There’s:

  • The three integrated DRAM controllers, and
  • The HyperTransport-reminiscent QuickPath Interconnect

Innovation heritage debates aside, in scanning over the Core i7 reviews that went live earlier today I again shake my head wondering how AMD’s going to respond (specifically in a fiscally profitable manner). As it is, AMD’s 65nm products can’t hit the same performance pinnacle as their Intel 45 nm Penryn-based counterparts, and AMD’s been forced to under-price Intel’s equivalent CPUs at lower speed bins in order to capture a modicum of business. AMD promises to up the performance ante with Shanghai, but Intel is poised to respond with Nehalem. And given past history, you can rest assured that Intel will rapidly spread the Nehalem architecture throughout its CPU product line…first mobile variants, for example, are rumored to appear in Q3 of next year.

Don’t believe me? Take a look at these writeups:

AMD, it seems to me, desperately needs a big break (either in the courts or the marketplace) in order to regain its stride. But Intel doesn’t seem inclined to give it one. The recent company split generated enough cash to enable AMD to keep limping along for a while longer. But at this point, I find it hard to not conclude that the company’s demise is now a matter of when, not if.

AMD apologists will predictably accuse my (numerous) technical counterparts and I (with apologies to Hillary Clinton) of ‘a vast Intel-wing conspiracy’. The following question isn’t for them (though I suspect they’ll chime in anyway). Agree or disagree with me, readers, and why? I welcome your thoughts. Meanwhile, I’ll get you my suite of Core i7 results as soon as I can.

Followup: Engadget and the Inquirer provide links to even more Core i7 reviews

Posted by Brian Dipert on November 3, 2008 | Comments (4)

March 21, 2009
In response to: Intel Vs AMD: The Final Chapter Entry?
Warren commented:

Amd will always be around its like saying ferarri will disapear i dont thinks so without competition there is momopolising and due to the size of amd and intel its like david and golieth in the bible but we all know this story. I will never buy intel due to big componies getting big heads suport the small to create competition and better products. Every single one of my AMD''s i bought are still running today some i have even sold twiceon an upgrade and still no worries AMD you rock! And if you dont like overclocking get intel! it works


November 11, 2008
In response to: Intel Vs AMD: The Final Chapter Entry?
qaz111111 commented:

Say what you will But(!), without AMD to kick around Intel will be raising prices and there won't be anyone to prevent them from enjoying monopoly pricing and profits. So don't be so quick to kick AMD just because they're down. They have saved your bacon for years and you should show some respect.


November 5, 2008
In response to: Intel Vs AMD: The Final Chapter Entry?
CM1950 commented:

Basically, this is irresponsible, baseless blather. AMD has had more lives than any cat and it is far from dead. You make the mistake of thinking everyone buys a Maseratti when most people buy a Honda. AMD makes Hondas and is changing their business to make them profitably. Next time, talk to AMD and get facts instead of making comments the SEC would be interested in.


November 5, 2008
In response to: Intel Vs AMD: The Final Chapter Entry?
ARO commented:

Bang for the Buck, not outright speed consistently dominates 3 9's of the commerical PC market and 2 9's of domestic and in both these spaces AMD has been remarkably competitive (for it's size). In these spaces Intel's dominance is cleverly maintained through marketing and sheer volume / size, nothing technical. Bleeding edge performance and speed comparisons are relevant to a minority (value) specialist interest market and temporary at best. Anyone with a serious interest in what really counts look closely at what the experts at each PC manufacturer design-in to their volume product lines, not at press opinion.

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