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Thin-Air ATSC (and NTSC): Reception Irregularities And Hardware Retreats

February 24, 2009

The latest in a series

When I wrote last Thursday afternoon that I’d finally succeeded in tuning in the ATSC streams coming from KOLO and a few other Reno, NV area stations, I suspected that my reception ups-and-downs weren’t over…and I was right. In the two followups at the end of part two of that particular post series, I mentioned that I was noticing occasional distortion in the recordings made using the Pinnacle Systems PCTV HD mini Stick. As a result, suspecting signal overload, I’d decided to disable the unit’s ‘Signal Booster’ setting.

Friday and Saturday, I went on another whirlwind roadtrip to the San Francisco Bay Area, and after I got back I reviewed the additional TV shows captured by my Windows Vista Media Center system while I was gone. Once again I saw evidence of random dropouts, across multiple channels’ recordings…dropouts that I’d never experienced with the HP ExpressCard TV Tuner I was previously using (and therefore decided to start using again). Too-weak or too-strong reception, it seems, is not the root cause of the Pinnacle woes.

Perhaps I just have a flaky unit, or perhaps something more systemic is to blame. Possibilities include Pinnacle’s Media Center drivers or the Dell XPS M1330’s USB implementation, even though I had no other peripherals connected to the laptop’s other external USB ports. I thought back to the summer of 2005, when a previous system’s USB 1.1 design caused random dropouts in incoming isochronous audio; perhaps this system’s higher-bandwidth USB2 configuration is similarly struggling with higher-bandwidth incoming isochronous audio-plus-video. It’s too bad…without the Pinnacle unit’s ‘Signal Booster’ capabilities, I’m no longer able to receive KNBP or KREN, and as you’ll see in a moment, KOLO is also more hit-and-miss than it was before.

Getting the HP ExpressCard TV Tuner working again was a bit frustrating. When I plugged it back into the laptop (after first disconnecting the Pinnacle USB device), Windows Vista’s Device Manager correctly reported its presence. But after subsequently launching Media Center, I was prompted to ’set up a new tuner’ (even though I’d previously configured it, prior to migrating to the Pinnacle alternative), and Media Center subsequently (and consistently) locked up. What I ended up needing to do was to completely de-install the Pinnacle software suite, then re-install the Hauppauge drivers for the HP unit (which is a re-label of Hauppauge’s WinTV-HVR-1500), then re-configure TV reception in Media Center from the very beginning using the HP unit. I’m pointing the probable blame finger here at Pinnacle; any software that requires you to do a full system reboot after an install, upgrade, or un-install is far too obtrusive for my tastes.

Sunday and Monday were filled with abundant precipitation (although today it’s drop-dead gorgeous). Here at 7,000 feet it mostly took the form of extremely large and wet flakes of snow (which locals aptly refer to as ‘Sierra Cement’). Depending on the ambient temperature at the time, it either transformed into water or slush, or accumulated as ‘white stuff’ once it hit the ground. And, as it turned out, its presence seemingly adversely affected two channels’ worth of reception. As a reminder, here’s what I’m currently tuning in, and where it’s coming from:

Broadcaster

Channel

Location

Tower Type

Notes

KRNV (NBC)

7 (VHF)

Slide Mountain (due east of me)

Primary

 

KTVN (CBS)

13 (VHF)

Slide Mountain

Primary

 

KNPB (PBS)

15 (UHF)

Red Peak (northeast)

Primary

Only accessible with Pinnacle unit, with ‘Signal Booster’ enabled

KOLO (ABC)

24 (UHF)

Peavine Mountain (northeast)

Translator

 

KREN (CW)

30 (UHF)

Peavine Mountain

Translator

Only accessible with Pinnacle unit, with ‘Signal Booster’ enabled

KRXI

44 (UHF)

Peavine Mountain

Primary

 

I am unable to tune in KAME, whose primary tower is located on Red Peak

Note that only two of the six stations are in the upper VHF band, therefore serviced by my AntennaCraft Y5-7-13 antenna. The other four, being UHF, are handled by the Antennas Direct ClearStream 2. Fortunately, the UHF stations both broadcast from east of me, while the VHF transmissions all come from the northeast, so I’ve been able to appropriately position the antennas without needing to resort to a rotor.

Note, too, that KRXI is the only Peavine Mountain-located broadcaster with a high-power omni-directional primary tower. All the others’ Peavine beacons come from secondary translators serving the town of Verdi. Translator towers are comparatively low power and are also highly directional, thereby enabling them to focus what broadcast power exists on the target local area.

Fortunately, Peavine Mountain is northeast of both Verdi, NV and further-away Truckee, CA, so I’m able to snag a fairly weak but still usually serviceable transmission from the KOLO translator. Conversely, I can only get KREN’s translator signal when I run the signal through a booster, and other Peavine transmissions remain indecipherable in spite of my amplification attempts. In part, this is because Peavine’s towers’ beacons primarily point towards Verdi, a few thousand feet below and only a few miles from them (as the crow flies, that is). And in part, it’s because nearby-to-me ~7,100′ Prosser Hill lies almost directly between Peavine Mountain and me, causing me to somewhat be in Prosser’s RF ’shadow’. More on that last point in a bit…

Early Sunday afternoon, after successfully getting the HP ExpressCard TV Tuner re-installed, I confirmed that KRNV, KTVN, KOLO and KRXI were all coming in clear. I was surprised later that night, however, to find Media Center reporting ‘no signal’ from KTVN when it tried to record 60 Minutes. KTVN’s broadcast has historically been slightly weaker than that of its KRNV Slide Mountain neighbor, but ever since I figured out that I needed a dedicated VHF antenna, I’d been able to tune it in fine…until now, that is.

I confirmed the no-reception situation by plugging the Pinnacle tuner into my netbook, thereby liberating both the Dell laptop and the HP tuner card from blame, then I gave up and went to bed. The next morning, KTVN was still dead to me, so I dropped an email to chief engineer Jack Antonio, who reported back no detected problems on his end. Since I was still able to receive KRNV’s VHF signal (along with the various UHF channels) just fine, I also assumed my antenna and coax wiring were blameless.

Continue reading with Part Two of this series, ‘Thin-Air ATSC (and NTSC): Snowfall Windows And Mountain Shadows‘…

Posted by Brian Dipert on February 24, 2009 | Comments (4)

February 25, 2009
In response to: Thin-Air ATSC (and NTSC): Reception Irregularities And Hardware Retreats
jeve commented:

As Stiggle says, people with marginal NTSC reception will not get squat with DTV. In addtion, it has been my experience that many people will not get squat with DTV during severe weather(when reliable reception is needed the most). Seems to me that completely turning off analog TV mostly just so people like Verizon can get rich is a travesty. I am hopeful that this 4 month delay opens some eyes.


February 25, 2009
In response to: Thin-Air ATSC (and NTSC): Reception Irregularities And Hardware Retreats
Brian Dipert commented:

Dear Bill, no need to apologize, but I encourage you to hit the Google link and peruse previous writeups in the series (ideally in chronological order ;-) ) in order to get a fuller picture of my situation. Come to think of it, maybe next week I'll dedicate one day's Brians Brain post to a chronologically ordered list of entries in this series, which has become far more involved (and interesting, IMHO) than I would have dreamed at the beginning of this particular tech journey!


February 25, 2009
In response to: Thin-Air ATSC (and NTSC): Reception Irregularities And Hardware Retreats
KYES commented:

As a person dealing day by day with viewer reception problems, maybe it would be helpful to comment here on software improvements that I would like to see in DTV receivers. 1. Display RF channel as well as PSIP so the viewer knows what channel is actually in use. 2. Display signal quality and strength, and it would not hurt to show SNR, as then we can say, "hey, you are at 17 dB SNR and only 2 dB above failure. Move that antenna." 3. Make it VERY EASY to add a channel to the list. 4. When two or more RF channels have identical streams, deal with it. Best would be to automatically select the best signal. BTW, I have the Autumnwave USB TV for debug purposes. It allows direct write to disk of the raw transport stream. This receiver software shows SNR, which numbers neatly match what I see on professional equipment, & though you cannot turn off the tap equalizer to see raw SNR it is quite useful. I can use the free TSReader and VLC to analyze & play stuff off the capture file. The software provided with this USB TV, not intended for professionals, allows single program stream recording, and is faultless. As far as reception is concerned, your experience shows how faulty the human interface is in most DTV products. If you, a professional, cannot determine why a signal fails, how do you think this works with grandma? It is horrid.


February 25, 2009
In response to: Thin-Air ATSC (and NTSC): Reception Irregularities And Hardware Retreats
Bill commented:

You are playing with too many variables. What kind of reception do you get using an HDTV set? Are there the same issues? What type of antenna are you using? What is the real stability of the notebook PC? After all Windows isn''t known for its real-time capabilities. I haven''t followed this series, so if I''m being repetitive, I apologize.

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