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Eagerly awaiting info on Apple's A4 chip for the iPad and how its PA Semi buy fits in ...

January 27, 2010

The iPad is finally here and, in classic Apple fashion, the company announced the flashy details on the tablet device – the cool, sleek design, etc – but didn’t offer many details on the inner workings of the technology.

My specific interest is in the Apple-built “A4” chip, which the company pretty much glances over in its Web site statements on the iPad, except to boast that the A4 is so powerful and efficient that it allows for a 10 hour battery life.

Based here in NY and not graced with an invite to Apple’s San Francisco iPad event, I was not in the room when Steve Jobs revealed Apple’s “latest creation,”  but from what I can see based on reports live from the introduction, not much was said on the A4.

It’s assumed that the A4 has come out of Apple’s April 2008 acquisition of PA Semi. That nearly two-year old buy gave Apple a fabless chip designer that specializes in low-power PowerPC microprocessor technology. The buy also caused a lot of trouble for Mark Papermaster, now Apple’s senior VP of devices hardware engineering. As you’ll recall Papermaster’s career move to Apple was fought by his former employer, IBM, which claimed it violated a non-compete agreement as Apple had bought PA Semi and could be readying a chip design unit based on PowerPC architecture. Papermaster was a veteran at IBM and had inside information on its PowerPC work, IBM argued.

At the time of acquisition, it was presumed that Apple would use the PA Semi technology in its popular iPhone line or perhaps to build chips for its Mac computers, ending the then 2-year-old relationship it had forged with Intel. It, of course, did not. And for the most part Apple hasn’t mentioned the PA Semi buy or its technology since its purchase. Now there’s this new undefined A4 and, without confirmation, industry speculation is that the silicon is based on knowledge and design acquired through PA Semi.

I’m eager to hear from Apple on the A4 but am not holding my breath. The company is one of the most closed mouth out there when it comes to its inside information. Meanwhile, the iPad is an exciting new device that could offer some serious competition to netbook makers. Priced as low as $499 and focused on e-mail, quick surfing, and entertainment options like watching videos, reading e-books, and listening to music, it does much of what netbooks pitch that they do to consumers and in the same price range. Yet, it’s sleeker, slimmer, touch-capable, and, frankly, just a lot cooler than most other laptop substitutes out today.

What are your thoughts on the iPad? Will it challenge netbooks, one of the PC segments major growth opportunities right now? What do you make of this A4? And will you be among the hordes of consumers that will inevitably wait on long lines to buy the iPad when it arrives at Apple stores in March? Share your thoughts below.

Posted by Suzanne Deffree on January 27, 2010 | Comments (13)

February 10, 2010
In response to: Eagerly awaiting info on Apple's A4 chip for the iPad and how its PA Semi buy fits in ...
Mark commented:

Anybody who doubts that Apple could design an SOC and tape it out in the time since the PA Semi acquisition, has obviously never worked there. Those sorts of crazy schedules are what Apple's all about. I'm sure they used a lot of off-the-shelf IP cores for the ARM processor, the GPU, and other components. But as anybody who has done this sort of thing can tell you - there's a lot more to getting a chip designed and built than just copy-and-pasting some cores.


February 3, 2010
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Paul Mc commented:

Who'd have thought the iPhone would create a whole new category of software, generate 12billion apps downloads? Be careful in writing this off as just a big iPhone or a sub-netbook. Its the new ways people may or may not use it that are the interesting aspects.


February 2, 2010
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VO commented:

The PA Semi team was working on PowerPC based SOC. They did a good job on the power side. They did have the chips running at low power and fast. That may have made IBM screaming. It is likely that the A4 is just an extension of the PA Semi power PC chip before Apple acquistion.......


February 2, 2010
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What's in the A4 commented:

In my blog, at jongpeddie, on wordpress site, you can find "Apple?s iPad ? The screen and what?s behind it," and it discusses the A4 chip and what's in it. Jon Peddie


January 29, 2010
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Ganesh commented:

@ Tom Halfhill, Yes, I agree with you in part. But, I have reasons to doubt whether the design was already underway, since Apple never had a VLSI division before the acquisition of PA Semi. My suspicion is that the PA Semi engineers decided to put together a SOC with minimal custom IP in it (plug in the ARM processor along with the ImgTech PowerVR IP and a smattering of other peripheral IPs from Samsung. They could have had the design taped out early 2009 giving them enough time to develop software / fix bugs in time for September to start work on the actual product.


January 28, 2010
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Suzanne Deffree, EDN commented:

Good design line point, Tom Halfhill.


January 28, 2010
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Tom Halfhill - Microprocessor Report commented:

It takes at least 12-18 months to design, debug, and manufacture an SoC like the Apple A4. And that assumes nothing goes wrong. As you note, it's been less than two years since Apple acquired P.A. Semi. Although it's theoretically possible that the P.A. Semi engineers could have designed the A4 from scratch, I suspect the design was already underway when they arrived at Apple.


January 28, 2010
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ddr1826 commented:

I'd like to see the movie Avatar's software for facial expression put into portable devices. Does the iPad have a built in camera? It lookes like a great virtual meeting device.


January 28, 2010
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Bill S commented:

This fits perfectly between the iPod Touch, which is too small for reading/surfing and MacBooks, which are just too awkward for reading/surfing around the house. If the virtual keyboard works as well as the old FingerWorks keyboards, people may be pleasantly surprised it. It's too early to tell, but the iPad seems to outperform Atom based laptops with greater battery life than other ARM based portable video viewers. If that is the result of the A4, then Apple is going to be hard to catch.


January 28, 2010
In response to: Eagerly awaiting info on Apple's A4 chip for the iPad and how its PA Semi buy fits in ...
Andy T commented:

iPad=Newton II Where's the 3D video capability?


January 27, 2010
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Serge van den Oever commented:

IPad has bluetooth suport, you can connect your wireless bluetooth apple keyboard. You can also get a docking system with keyboard connected. See apple site. I have a macbook, but actually never used the iSight camera one in the last two year, so I don't care:-) And why need GSM in the tablet... Wifi is enough, I will make my phone connect to G3, and provide a wifi access point that my tablet can connect to. People who love music will have an iPod anyway, so you probably can get away with the smallest memory version if you don't use it for loads of music, photo's and video... I think I want one:-)


January 27, 2010
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Brescian commented:

Wait I was wrong. The ipad 32 GB is actually 729 making the Ipad Cheaper than the iphone. !#!*@/ the iphone is overpriced!!!


January 27, 2010
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Brescian commented:

Hmmm.... No Adobe, No Microsoft office/word capability, No truly available external keyboard option, and most importantly NO WEB CAM (and no word as to if an external one can even be used), no I dont think this is going to threaten the lower priced and more capable netbooks that much. Also, has anyone else noticed that the 3G models are priced at almost the same prices as the iphone models of the same drive capacity i.e iphone 32 G is $799 (no contract) While ipad 32G is $899. Is the pad cheap or the iphone overpriced? Probably both.

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