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Baby it's cold outside: Is your cell phone battery pack smart enough to know it?

February 6, 2007

PowerSource reader BatteryGuy commented that concerns about charging a cell-phone in subfreezing temps are unwarranted because cell-phones shut down their charging circuitry in sub-freezing temperatures. Definitely a good feature for cell phones to have – but is this always the case? How does the charging circuitry sense the temperature, and how can you tell if a phone has the capability?

So I talked to the battery charging experts at Maxim/Dallas Semiconductor. Maxim is one of the major suppliers of battery charging ICs and fuel gauges. They said, yes, the majority – but not all – of cell phones have a thermistor in the battery pack that tells the charger when the temperature is below freezing and prevents the battery pack from charging. They estimated that 80 - 90% of cell phones have this capability. A good way to tell is by looking at the contacts on the battery pack: Two contacts means no temperature sensing capability, a third contact is probably for the thermistor and indicates the charging indeed shuts down at sub-freezing temps. (A fourth contact is probably for a memory device.)

Posted by Margery Conner on February 6, 2007 | Comments (3)

February 14, 2007
In response to: Baby it's cold outside: Is your cell phone battery pack smart enough to know it?
Jay at NABC commented:

FYI, this is not a new problem. We have been building charger SYSTEMS for years that made provisions in the design of the charger and/or PCBA for both high and/or low temperature operation. An example of a temperature driven design is our PLS3600 which accomdates 36 LiIon batteries used in a warehouse environment. jfuhr@nabcorp.com


February 13, 2007
In response to: Baby it's cold outside: Is your cell phone battery pack smart enough to know it?
Bob commented:

Even some 4 terminal smart chips that are in laptop Batteries do not let the charger know that it is too cold. I am experienceing this now. When it is too cold the smart chip tells the charger to charge at 0mA without any warning.


February 13, 2007
In response to: Baby it's cold outside: Is your cell phone battery pack smart enough to know it?
Sonor commented:

The three-terminal test does not always hold. The safety board that is part of the battery pack also has a thermistor on it, and so the safety board can take on the job of not letting the charge happen at low temperatures without transmitting the temperature to the charger.

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