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FPGAs aren't gone yet—or even slowing down. But ...

August 12, 2008

Just to add some balance to my previous posting about the future of FPGAs, I thought I should introduce a little corrective reality. In a recent conversation with Pratul Shroff, president and CEO of design house eInfochips, the subject of FPGAs came up. Shroff said that in his business, he saw systems houses moving away from ASICs to FPGAs. "The costs of doing an ASIC have simply become too high for many designs," he explained. So in areas such as broadcast equipment, surveillance, and health care, Shroff has seen large FPGAs displacing medium-sized ASICs.

This has not been an easy transition, though. Shroff said that as the largest FPGAs—the only ones that can offer SoC-like logic and memory density—come into use, placement and routing are "becoming a nightmare." The old concepts of programmable logic, from cut-and-try design to pushbutton automated placement, are simply breaking down in the face of the growing complexity and the extremely high timing and power costs of even slightly inefficient routing. This despite the FPGA vendors’ assurance that they have now put so many routing resources on the die that interconnect is no longer a limiting resource.

Shroff said that, ironically, the thing that seems to help most with the placement and routing of these large FPGAs is to have a design team with cell-based back-end design experience. "Standard-cell placement experience becomes vital on some of these projects," he said.

Shroff’s observations have an interesting economic implication. If the back-end flow in FPGA designs is becoming as complex and difficult as the back-end design for a cell-based ASIC, then the major savings in NRE have to come from other areas. The savings could come from front-end design, where the FPGA vendors have lavished resources on raising the level of abstraction, employing pre-qualified IP, and containing the entire flow in a single user interface. They could come from the impressive IP libraries that the FPGA vendors have assembled and supported. Or they could come from the fact that FPGAs recover their manufacturing costs from their unit price, rather than from up-front mask and wafer charges.

In the latter cost structure there is a built-in advantage: FPGAs are standard-product wafers, run in big lots. But for the largest parts, this may not be as big an advantage as it sounds: there aren’t that many of these aircraft-carrier FPGAs built, and the yields aren’t that great that the unit cost should be much lower than the unit cost of a significantly smaller ASIC die. Generally the packaging costs will be much higher. The big difference may be the mask charges and overhead from small wafer lots experienced by ASICs.

All this suggests some truth to the argument that fabless ASIC consolidator eSilicon, for one, has been making. If you use new techniques like multi-project masks and wafers, consolidate projects to reduce small-run costs, and shift costs from NRE into unit prices, the difference in cost between a moderate-sized SoC and a huge FPGA may start to disappear at a much lower volume than it used to. If that’s true, the big front-end cost difference between the ASIC and the big FPGA might turn out to be in the better front-end design methodology that the FPGA vendors have assembled. That has virtually nothing to do with the fact that the methodology supports a configurable, rather than an ASIC, piece of hardware. It is something an ASIC vendor, with equal resources, could do at least as well.

Posted by Ron Wilson on August 12, 2008 | Comments (6)

October 2, 2008
In response to: FPGAs aren't gone yet—or even slowing down. But ...
Estar commented:

It is quite not correct to state that "FPGAs Are STEALABLE "! Altera has encyprion mechanizm that makes the FPGA safe (AES?an industry-standard encryption algorithm?and a non-volatile key for configuration bitstream encryption). Other vendors have also similar solutions.


September 9, 2008
In response to: FPGAs aren't gone yet—or even slowing down. But ...
veteran_designer commented:

the arguments against FPGA in the article can be turned around if we evaluate the hard-copy path from Altera:"try it risk free in FPGA and then freeze at low cost into an ASIC" . Which manager with P&L reposibility would not want to take that route? FPGAs' will always be more attractive in most markets.


August 26, 2008
In response to: FPGAs aren't gone yet—or even slowing down. But ...
Totally_Lost commented:

Not to mention that with the dollars in the bottom end of the FPGA market size wise, we have patents expiring that open these up to commodity levels from new high volume off shore sources in the next decade.


August 13, 2008
In response to: FPGAs aren't gone yet—or even slowing down. But ...
Azmat commented:

RyanB: years ago i worked with a group that developed a logic-based technique to make mask ROMS (anyone remember those?) copy-protected at the pin-level. If you were to try to decode the ROM by reading out at the data pins, you would get garbled info. There was, of course, a bit of silicon overhead, but nothing is free. Can the FPGA folks do the same, to at least offer partial 'protection'. (characters displayed below are NFL >> some subliminal hints at the imminent season!!)


August 13, 2008
In response to: FPGAs aren't gone yet—or even slowing down. But ...
RyanB commented:

FPGAs Are STEALABLE !!! Until FPGA manufacturers address this and convince the world, small companies will NOT put their hard work complex IP into a stealable FPGA. Actel and Quicklogic have addressed this but they are too slow for high speed networking, DSP. FPGAs will continue to drive the "Glue Logic" world.


August 13, 2008
In response to: FPGAs aren't gone yet—or even slowing down. But ...
ManojG commented:

I share your apprehension about the FPGA vendors :-) Note that X and A get a big chunk of their revenue from the low-end parts. For instance, this excerpt from A's June 15 earnings report: "Our 90-nm FPGAs were the largest growth drivers and 65-nm FPGA sales more than doubled sequentially, leading to FPGA growth of 18 percent year over year". Doing the math, those pricey 65-nm parts are not a big part of the revenue. As argued in your previous posting, the low end FPGAs are susceptible to commoditization (hey, even SiliconBlue can make them) if not alternative solutions. Take away the revenue from these parts and the economics of X and A is not very different from those of ASSP vendors! When X forks its high-end FPGA line into 5 segments and some of them have upwards of 30% die area as dedicated IP, its well on its way to ASSP'ism.

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