Disagreement on NYC e-waste ordinance

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Put the onus back on the city council where it belongs. They need to pay the local garbage haulers to sort out the e-waste or make it easy for the citizens to recycle. What a bunch of petty city legislators who think they are going to save the world on someone else's back. The b@$t@rds.

For those that wish to see what failure to find a solution for e-waste management they should take a look at one of the videos foud on the News Page of this web site. www.eccb.org

I agree we need to implement programs to reduce the amount of electronic waste, but creating a state by state, or even city by city approach is completely ineffective. Our economy heavily relies on our country's ability to remain innovative and competitive on a global scale, yet our legislators want to penalize tech manufactures by forcing them to comply with multiple rules and regulations, some of which manufacturers have no control over, like the New York City ewaste bill. Why can the EU states work together on a common system and there is little or no coordination in the US?

Does anyone know what NYC will do come Sep 1? Will they start threatening letters to a few million small business people in faraway states? Start fining $1000 per day to several million businesses?

I am all for electronics recycling. But - the WEEE regulations in the EU are a good example of what happens with a patchwork of laws. Recycling systems are not standardized, to sell EU wide I would have to register in 27+ jurisdictions. In the US, the federal gov needs to put their foot down and protect interstate commerce by setting up a nationwide system. For example, charge a levy per unit or pound of items sold, and provide subsidies to municipal waste districts based on the amount of waste collected and recycled.

While I'm sure most rational people are in favor of recycling a range of household items & appliances, the notion that a mfr is supposed to canvass their registered users, who may have moved on anyway, on some arranged(?) schedule, to see if they have anything which needs picking up is utter madness. Only a local town council could come up with such drivel... crackpot law of the week! Apart from that, surely it's umm, kinda obvious that a patchwork of different laws by city, county or even state is totally unworkable. Time for some federal guidelines and controls here to prevent the local loonies from further breaking our economy.

Electronic waste has the be recycled. But collecting the stuff should not be the responsibility of the individual manufacturer. "Manufacturer" can mean a small one or two people compnay located far away from where the product goes into the waste. A centralized system is required and a system that does not generate a bunch or bureaucracy. It can not be that a single city imposes its own system, even national systems do generate a lot of problems for SMEs. @Steve Jones: Mining landfills is a proposition that gets more and more rational with rising costs for raw materials. Basically waste today should not go to landfills, few does in Europe any more.

Remind me agian why I don't wnat to live in NY... I think "it's just me" has the right idea. While I support recycling and smart use of our resources the hate poorly thought out knee jerk reactions that make certian people money at the expense of others. You know the cost of anything is passed onto the consumer, there is no such thing as free. One more thought... If all this "stuff" is still in the landfills why don't we mine it and recycle it. I would think it would be a "rich" deposit of usable materials.

Putting the onus of responsibility on take back and recycling is acceptable; however, putting the responsiblity for the act of recycling product they don't have control over once it is sold won't work because how can they dictate to the consumer they must recycle. A program to incentivize the consumer via trade in / trade up merchandise credit may be an option but the costs of those programs will be reflected in the cost of the product. Again the onus to recycle the product must fall on the consumer not the manufacturer.

If the Manufacturers had any balls they would remove their products from the retial stores in NY City. The public reaction against this rediculas ordinance would be rapidly reversed due to outrage from the masses, and within days the products could be returned to the retail shelves. The temporary loss in sales would be a fraction of the Fines the city would attempt to collect from "evil Corporations", and might just show some of these nut cases that extreme environmentalism is not free, safe, or wise....

It's time to stop all the toxic e-wastes from entering our landfill, our water. All the CRTs, TVs, glass, plastic, chemical will last for decades ...